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#1 ·
I was in a discussion the other day about whether or not the Volt and the Leaf have transmissions. My opinion is...I think so. If a vehicle has a reverse gear, the shaft and gears for reverse are housed in a transmission housing. Am I right or are there capabilities in the electrics to simply turn the traction motor in the opposite direction?
 
#2 · (Edited)
Tricky question. If you are thinking of the traditional transmission with gears providing 4 or 6 distinct ratios and a torque converter, no. But mated to the engine is what looks like a transmission, and it does transmit power, but electrically, sometimes with a mechanical boost via a direct coupling to the engine. It contains the differential (lets drive wheels spin at different speeds around turns), as well as the electric motors, clutches and gears to change the power flow and the continuously variable ratio, and transmission fluid. Changing to reverse is done electrically, not mechanically. In fact, a highly-placed Volt engineering executive once told me you can shift a Volt from D to R at highway speeds and not do any damage, because it is electrical and controlled by software, and the software won't let the field reverse. Don't go all the way to P (Park) because that is mechanical and would tear up the transmission. I am not advocating anyone do this with their car; I certainly wouldn't with mine.
 
#5 ·
The Volt does not change anything mechanically to drive in Reverse; the main drive motor is driven backwards electrically to provide motion.

Technically the Volt has a transmission - mechanical gears and bearings that multiply torque and reduce speed - but it is nowhere near as complicated as the traditional car transmission.
 
#6 ·
I think the answers are quite different for the Leaf (or Spark) and the Volt. The Leaf just uses a reduction gear. You could call this a transmission. As mentioned, technically it is, but most people don't consider a reduction gear to be a transmission. So I'd say the Leaf does not have a transmission.

The Volt has the planetary gearset, which uses clutches and gears. Since it has a lot of stuff, and since planetary gearsets are considered to be the first transmissions, I'd say the Volt does have a transmission.

So I think you're right on the Volt and a tiny bit right on the Leaf!
 
#8 ·
As for the Chevy Spark EV, it also has a transmission, but just a single gear planetary set enclosed with the electric motor, and it also uses transmission fluid to lubricate it and cool the motor. It is changed once every 97,500 miles (or TEN YEARS!). This is one of the excellent reasons EVs are money savers, since the fluids never get too hot and never get dirty (unless you have excess metal wear due to abuse). The liquid coolants also last much longer!
 
#11 ·
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Transmission General Description

The MKA 4ET50 is a fully automatic, front wheel drive transaxle, variable-speed, electronic-controlled transmission. It consists primarily of a torque damper assembly, an integral main and auxiliary fluid pump and housing, 1 planetary gear set, 2 friction (rotating) and 1 mechanical (stationary) clutch assemblies, a hydraulic pressurisation and control system, and two internal electric motors. Drive motor with generator A (1) is 55 kW and drive motor with generator B (2) is 111 kW.

The torque damper contains internal torsional springs, fluid, input shaft and a clutch. The torque damper acts as a spring coupling to smoothly transmit power from the engine flexplate to the transmission. The damper provides a mechanical direct drive coupling of the engine to the transmission. The clutch is applied during engine starting and stopping events.

The planetary gear set provides the Electrically Variable forward mode ratios and reverse. Changing ratios is fully automatic and is accomplished through the use of a transmission control module (TCM) located inside the transmission and the drive motor generator power inverter module located under hood. Both the TCM and the drive motor generator power inverter module receives and monitors various electronic sensor inputs and uses this information to vary the torque output at the optimum time based on throttle position.

The TCM commands shift solenoids and variable bleed pressure control solenoids to control torque timing and feel. All the solenoids, including the TCM, are packaged into a self-contained control solenoid valve assembly.

The main hydraulic system primarily consists of a gerotor-type pump, control valve body assemblies, damper housing and case. The pump maintains the working pressures needed to stroke the clutch pistons that apply or release the friction components. These friction components, when applied or released, support the automatic ratios qualities of the transmission.

The hydraulic system also uses a secondary system and consists of an auxiliary pump located inside of the transmission. This is a gerotor-type pump, electric three phase High Voltage motor, electric harness, and control module. The control module is located inside of the drive motor generator power inverter module under the hood. This pump maintains working pressures when the engine is off.

The friction components used in this transmission consist of 3 multiple disc clutches. The multiple disc clutches combine with a planetary gear set and electric motor to deliver the different ratios, forward and reverse. The gear set then transfers torque through the final drive assembly.

The transmission may be operated in any of the following gear ranges:

P (PARK): This position locks the wheels and prevents the vehicle from rolling either forward or backward. PARK is the best position to use when starting the vehicle. Because the transmission utilises a selector lock control system, it is necessary to fully depress the brake pedal before shifting out of PARK. For safety reasons, use the parking brake in addition to the PARK position.

R (REVERSE): This position allows the vehicle to be operated in a rearward direction. This is done by the Drive Motor with Generator B and is electric.

N (NEUTRAL): In this position, the propulsion system does not connect with the wheels.

D (DRIVE): Drive range should be used for all normal driving conditions for maximum efficiency and fuel economy. Drive range allows the transmission to operate in electrically variable modes providing various ratios and output torque.

L (Low): This position is used for the "feel" of engine braking and can be used for the slowing of the vehicle once the throttle is lifted. While in the position the vehicle will slow more quickly and use the B motor to more aggressively collect energy during a regenerative braking event.
 
#12 ·
I remember years ago when front-wheel drive cars were fairly new, hearing that supposedly a front-wheel drive car doesn't have a "transmission" per se; rather, it has a "transaxle". ? I know it (front wheel drive car, assuming the engine/motor is also in front) doesn't have a "driveshaft" (because that's what conveys physical power from the front to the rear wheels, in a rear-wheel drive car), maybe that's what was being referred to?