[Parax]

What I'm really looking for, so far unsuccessfully, is to find and download four basic data: (1) miles cumulative, (2) electric only miles cumulative, (3) kWhr used cumulatively, and (4) gallon of fuel used cumulatively.

There is definitely interest in getting odometer readings for both EV Mode and Engine Mode, and also lifetime electricity & fuel.

Also some kind of engine usage measurement (total revs? in thousands/millions) presumably some usage figure exists for the oil life calculations.

 

[rdunniii]

With the usable SOC formula - (((A*100/255)-21.5)/65.0)*100 I seem to never get close to 100% for this reading for a full charge. I understand there would need to be 'headroom' should you start your journey downhill, however, when I get the RAW SOC reading it has never been above 83.5% (and USABLE 95.4%). Yet the formula predicts a top of 86.5%.

Would there be a problem in adjusting my formula for USABLE SOC to (((A*100/255)-21.5)/62.0)*100 ?

I think this would result in a full charge reading closer to ~100% for me.

What maximum RAW SOC do you see using the Torque app?

Do you discharge the battery to CS mode or do you recharge while still in CD mode? If you don't do the former the charge and amount usable will slowly degrade. I was down to 9.4kW per charge usable and 10.9 kw required for a complete recharge. After 4 cycles of discharge to CD mode before recharging I am back up to 9.7 kW before switching to CS mode and 11.9 kW required for a full recharge.

 

[Norton]

I have a new question: Why does the ICE only get up to 173°F ?
I don't know of any modern ICE that run this cool. 193°F/89°C is a typical thermostat setting. Some are 93°C , I think.

I watched the Opel Ampera Torque guy's video and his runs this cool also.
As they say,,, What's up with that?

This is not good for fuel efficiency and you want your oil temp to get up to above 180°F once in a while to burn off moisture content.

Are others seeing this?

 

[tboult]

Can someone with a 2012 or 2013 with a built in kWh meter check the field I added

?? kWh Used (2011/2012)
?? kWh Used (2013+)

For accuracy.. Curious to see how well this crude approximation does. Its just a mapping of SOC to kWh used but still some people may prefer to think in term of kWh rather than SOC..

 

[Norton]

tboult,
I'm sorry I'm the slow boy on this thread.
When you say "check the field I added " , am I right to assume it was added to this doc?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvK9F6VeA7dvdFUwSjBzR2FQM1BJTWZoLW43ZFdoTFE#gid=0

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[voltowner]

Tboult,

Thank you for the 2011 one. It works for me and gives me the information in a form that I have been longing for. Now i can easily choose routes and styles of driving. And all for less than $50.

So much better than buying a new model to get the info. Cheaper and I don't loose things like the backup guide in the camera. I think there are other things that were removed on the more recent models too.

Has me curious about all the other info available now.

Is there any way the scanner can tell when the brake pads are actually being applied in real time? Just looking for on and off. I like to re-generate brake but wonder if I go too far and use the brake pads sometimes? The brake torque is interesting but doesn't give me that info.

Thanks again, Roy Volt #1019

 

[ChrisC]

I just set all this up. The .torque directory remained invisible (or non-existent) even though I was showing hidden files, and indeed I could see other .directory entries. Creating the .torque directory failed, and I expect that was because it already existed (even though I couldn't see it).

Finally after closing and reopening the app, and creating a profile, and using the Astro file manager app to look in the phone directly, I could see the .torque directory. I'm not sure which of those three things did the trick. I then had to do some juggling to get the CSV file into the right place.

The .torque directory was on my phone internal storage. I don't have an SD card in the phone and don't need one.

All that took me about 30 minutes of head scratching but after that it worked. I'll be testing this with my car shortly

 

[ChrisC]

I have been using this since Sept 27th and it is AWESOME. I can finally see all the things that I couldn't previously because GM had dumbed down the car for us. If you're new to this, instructions are in the first post in this thread.

I'm going to post a quick procedure on how to set this up, leveraging what tboult has already posted here, but I can't figure out one thing: how do you export the Torque dashboard layout and get the file off the Android device? I've done an export, but I can't find the file that it created. I've searched the device's entire filesystem and can't find it, including in the .torque , torque and torqueLogs folders (the latter two being empty for me).

Has anybody done a layout export?

FYI, there's another thread about Torque dashboard layouts, but there's nothing in there about exactly how to do it, and this is the more informative thread, so I'm posting here. But here's the link to the other thread.

http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?46297-Post-your-Torque-App-screenshots-layout

 

[physans]

ChrisC,

It would be great to see a quick procedure on how to set this up 'for dummies' style!!! If you do this, myself and I'm sure many others would appreciate it!

 

[Norton]

Chris,

I agree with physans.
I have some gauges displayed but other Pids allow me to select a gauge but it just sits there and does not have the green blinking small square. And the gauges that are working are very slow to update it seems.
I've been through every configuration I can find trying to get everything working.
Are there some OBD-II to BT adapters that are just too slow?

 

[ChrisC]

OK, I think I figured out how to export. I need your help ("you" being anyone here) to test and refine.

I did the layout export but couldn't find the file on the device. I was looking for a file dated "today" but there was nothing newer than Dec 1st. It turns out that those Dec 1st files WERE the layout files. At least, INSIDE those files I found a header with today's date, despite the old timestamp on the file itself. Something's wrong with the datestamps, and it could just be a problem between my computer and the device.

The files are NOT named as I had entered, so I still don't really understand what happened to my export.

So, I have uploaded here the TWO files that I found:

View attachment torque-layout.zip (I had to ZIP them up to get the upload to work)

torqueDial.dat = layout configuration, I think
torqueConf.dat = data PID information, I think

I've never done a layout import and am not going to try. I need someone to try importing this layout and see if it works. I'm guessing that you'll just need to put the torqueDial.dat file in your device's .torque folder (not in subfolders) and then do a layout import. I won't spoonfeed it further -- just start trying it, and dig through the Torque website and Google if you have problems. Layout import should have nothing to do with the Volt custom PIDs, so you should be able to ask on the general Troque forum without confusing them be mentioning the Volt. Good luck.

I don't think you need the torqueConf.dat file, but if importing the above doesn't work, then try that file too.

If it works, your Torque realtime screens should have the following layouts:
Screen 1 = six gauges of miscellaneous gas engine stuff
Screen 2 = Emissions test info (default screen from Torque)
Screen 3 = 0-60 timers etc (default screen from Torque)
Screen 4 = Volt engine status with RPM (graph and numeric) and throttle position
Screen 5 = temperature gauges
Screen 6 = HV battery info including SOC and charging V+A; RPM shown for CS mode purposes
Screen 7 = electric motor power (I hope you know by now that the Volt has TWO electric motors)

Let me know how it goes. Once one of you guys has import working, I'll write up a "Torque for Dummies" procedure, leveraging what tboult already posted in the beginning of this thread.

 

[pgwipeout]

I recently came across this lovely piece of work http://service.gm.com/gmspo/mode6/pdf/2012/12OBDG01A HYBRID Diagnostics.pdf
The first page has the Control Module layout for the Volt, including OBD headers. This could be used to locate more codes.

 

[ari_c]

OK, I think I figured out how to export. I need your help ("you" being anyone here) to test and refine.

I could not figure out how to import the files, but I simply renamed the existing files of the same name and just copied them to the same location. This worked fine and everything showed up.

However, some of the values are off for me. kWh used is not correct. It usually starts at -0.3 and values do not increase correctly. However, the only really important value I am looking for is SOCwhich appears correct. SOC usable is wrong as well and just matches SOC-R.

Anyway, I was able to confirm my theory of my technique of gaining an extra 0.3 - 0.4 kWh by topping off the charge for 12-14 minutes.

 

[Riconl]

Does anybody use Engine Link on the Iphone or Ipad?
I have it and it can use custum pid files from torque.
Now the problem seems that the pidfile needs to be changed a little.
Also i see in the pidfile that with the Volt all ODB Headers are 0 is that correct?

 

[Beech18]

Hi ChrisC!
While I'm waiting for my OBD2 adapter to arrive, I purchased Torque Pro, and replaced both files in the proper directory with your two. Saved the originals, on my SSD of course. Here's what I see.
Screen 1 = your Screen 7 (MGA and MGB). In the 2 large graphs "kW" is repeated so that the graph label is "MBA kW kW", for example.
Screen 2 = your Screen 6
Screen 3 = your screen 5
Screen 4 = your screen 4
Screen 5 = your screen 3
Screen 6 = your screen 2
Screen 7 = your screen 1

Mind you, that order is just fine with me since I'm interested in the electric stuff more than the standard engine stuff!

I'll let you know more when my BT OBD2 gets here.

Thanks for all the hard work - much appreciated!

 

[ptarp]

I replaced my files in the .torque directory hoping to get your layout and ended up with a screen that said "sleeping" and allowed nothing else. Uninstalled and re-installed torque and got back to the old defaults. Importing the PID's worked fine by saving the data as a new ".csv" file next to the "other.csv" file and then importing them inside torque.

 

[Beech18]

Thanks again, ChrisC. This works fine with my OBD2, and is very useful. Phone is an HTC Droid Incredible 4G running ICS.

On the state of charge, it would be very useful to know the algorithm that GM uses to display the kWh used values on the in-dash display. I have calibrated the SOC counts from the OBD2 to that value, getting somewhat different values than are in the posted spreadsheet. However, since they depend on battery temperature and the number of amps that have been cycled through the battery (loosly speaking, on battery lifetime), they will vary. Here is an interesting Idaho National Laboratory report on the Volt battery: http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/EREV/batteryvolt3929.pdf.

 

[ptarp]

The !!Inst Power entry on the excel sheet seems to be the same as the 2013 gets in the DIC for power usage. I added /1000 to the equasion in mine and added a decimal to the display. After rounding the number is the same. Definately slower than the display though.
Looking to see if cabin temp is in there anywhere.
I did notice sitting here plugged in that my engine coolant temp reading won't go over 92F with the heater on Hi and comfort. Trying to figure out if that's the same sensor GM uses for testing.

 

[tboult]

I'm guessing someone here deleted the OBD headers from the spreadsheet? Can I ask why?
(I've restored them, so if there is a problem we should discuss and fix it).

 

[pgwipeout]

I did notice sitting here plugged in that my engine coolant temp reading won't go over 92F with the heater on Hi and comfort. Trying to figure out if that's the same sensor GM uses for testing.

Engine Coolant Temp reads the Temp from the thermostat. So as long as the engine isn't running this should never read much more than ambient because while the electric heat is running the coolant is prevented from passing to the engine and wasting heat.