Here in Savannah/Hiltonhead area, when you want a trial drive , the dealers try to sell you a regular CTS ICE, since they do not have a plug model !!!

 

Isn't it built in China and imported to the USA?

 

Yes, it is.

 

lol, the guy who craps on a $150 Chinese EVSE in every single thread wants a car made in China.

 

I'll buy an Apple, Android, laptop, or Gm product designed in the US and manufactured elsewhere, but I won't buy a Duosida or any cheap Chinese crap like Coby Blueray players sold at Walmart. I'll also avoid Lenovo as they "bought" their quality by acquiring parts of IBM and Motorola.

And it's let's of a buy American thing, more of a rebel against a country that does horrific things to oppress their people. I've known people who were murdered in China for bad business deals.

 

There is Cadillac Collective site for the CT6 PHEV. I'll find it Monday. It's where the owners are discussing the car with the chief engineer.

The build quality appears to be identical to the US CT6's, I went over the Chinese one pretty thoroughly. Not a fan of the Chinese automakers, but this was no CODA.

 

https://www.cadillaccollective.com/h/SignIn?ReturnUrl=%2fh%2f

 

i am a "buy made in America" guy. But in this case sort of support the GM decision to make the plug in CT6 in china, because that is where the evident larger market for the plug in is, and the china tariff's prevent selling cars at a competitive price in China that are exported from the US. i.e., we need to maximize the number of electric vehicles sold to help the environment and production in China is one way to increase ev sales.

Still waiting to see if GM can sell the Bolt in quantity - disappointing so far. I asked one Buick/chevy dealer if they had a bolt , and he said 'we don't want to sell that piece of junk'. GM may work around the dealer negative attitudes by making the CT6 plug in in China.

 

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Still waiting to see if GM can sell the Bolt in quantity - disappointing so far. I asked one Buick/chevy dealer if they had a bolt , and he said 'we don't want to sell that piece of junk'. ...

At one dealership, the sales manager told me in no uncertain terms the Bolt was much smaller inside than the Volt. He had driven both cars at a GM conference, and the Bolt was certainly not a very wise choice in automobiles. And some other assorted BS that was completely untrue.

A Cadillac dealer told me the CT6 PHEV was not coming to the US for 2017 and tried to aim me at a CTS. Not even a CT6. A CTS. Ugh.

 

GM should move fast...AUDI will have an Electric SUV next year, big and powerful,,,and so will VOLVO, VW, and other European companies. Timing is everything...VOLTEC should be transfer to the larger GM cars to keep ahead in the electric market...

 

GM sells trucks. They don't have much interest in EV's

 

I was in Shanghai in May, and the number of EV's on the road there is truly impressive. A couple of Teslas parked outside my hotel. At the apartment my brother was renting for an extended stay, there was a Tesla based there - must be charged in a public charging station. There are many Chinese-made EVs and plug-in hybrids; including BYD and Trumpchi (no joke - it translates to China's Best - when Trump got elected, the company thought that's even better, it will add to the prestige of their name - they're looking at changing it to sell in the US). The Trumpchi is a large luxury car - I rode in one with Didi, which is the Chinese version of Uber, and I was quite impressed. With the size of the Chinese market, their need to reduce air pollution in big cities, their government's support, and their head start, look out! As EVs become less expensive to produce than ICE's, China will be providing competition to the US car industry that will make 2009 look like just a little bump in the road.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!An-mc7ZeMBD3-xrp3pkOuR11YcHX
https://1drv.ms/i/s!An-mc7ZeMBD3-xlQuqE57PCwtjkX

 

There's someone in a city nearby who own a Chinese made Zebra, even painted striped like a zebra. They can keep trying, hopefully the american buying public won't fall for crappy quality. Remember the Yugo!!!

 

My observations from the Cadillac event in July, responding to questions from Eric Angeloro, the Global Launch & Lifecycle Marketing - CT6 PLUG-IN/CT6/XTS rep - snipped from the Cadillac Collective..

CT6 Plug-in walkthrough with Eric:
https://youtu.be/0nFlOO22rwk

To experience the CT6 PLUG-IN is to believe. The smoothness of the drive and the performance of the vehicle can only be appreciated from behind the wheel.

A test drive is critically important when you are shopping for any new vehicle, let alone a new energy vehicle like the CT6 PLUG-IN. Sure, we know you love the product, but we are most curious about your EXPERIENCE on the drive.

With this in mind, let's discuss:
1. If you have had the opportunity to drive the CT6 PLUG-IN and if so, what was your impression of the overall experience?

2. Whether or not you have driven the CT6 PLUG-IN, tell us what your idea of the ultimate test drive would be. This could be at a dealership or at a Cadillac event.

Post your reply below with your thoughts and bonus points for any photos of your test drive.

Drove from Pittsburgh in my ELR to attend the Truth + Dare event in Cleveland at the I X Center today.

1. If you have had the opportunity to drive the CT6 PLUG-IN and if so, what was your impression of the overall experience?


We enjoyed the experience a lot, but I felt there was room for improvement, especially when there was a lot of interest expressed in the CT6 Plug-In. There was a rep by the name of Rosemary, who was the expert on the hybrid, and she was able to answer all of my questions about the CT6 Plug-in. She was great.

Rosemary working in Detroit with the Escala: https://youtu.be/ucHJPUd2ytQ

One of the issues that I found, was that the car was not charged - it had 0 electric range on the battery. In the future, it would be prudent to provide a way to keep the car in a charged state. Suggest a TurboCord or some other portable 240V system to keep the cars energized before the street drives.

I did like the way the car ran on the gas engine - it was whisper quiet. I also liked that the auto stop function was seamless - no hint of engine shudder when starting from a complete stop. But the experience was somewhat diminished in not being able to pilot the car in pure EV mode. And the low EV range might be an issue with prospective customers, but it's possible that an efficient driver could squeak out more that the 31 miles of EV range advertised. My ELR is rated for 38 miles, but in warm weather, I've been getting 50 and sometimes 52 miles of range. Rosemary reminded me that it's all about Temperature,Terrain and driving Technique for maximizing your range.

Some problems;
Let's say I wanted the Cinnamon seats - I can only order them with a limited number of exterior colors.
Is the Bose Panaray system available? When going through a mock order, it was not available, but on the Suburban Cadillac of Costa Mesa site, it says it's an option.

http://www.suburbancadillacofcostam...s/new-2017-Cadillac-CT6_Sedan-4dr_Sdn_2.0L_PLUG_IN_RWD-Costa_Mesa-CA/2984147013

Audio system feature, Bose premium surround sound 10-speaker system (Upgradeable to (UQH) Bose Panaray 34-speaker sound system.)
When I'm looking for a car, I like to take a look at the manual for it - there is not a specific manual to download for the Plug-in, just the Convenience and Personalization Guide.(No manual yet for the 2018 - there is one for the 2017 build, but not specific to the Plug-in)
https://www.cadillac.com/content/da...017_CT6_Plug_In/Model_Overview/03_pdfs/2017-cad-ct6-plug-in-personalization.pdf

I found that I was unable to change the Charge Limit from 8 Amps to 12 Amps while driving.
The backup camera is awful - why can't there be a decent backup camera with better resolution? It's sad to spend that much on a car and have a low res camera.

2. Whether or not you have driven the CT6 PLUG-IN, tell us what your idea of the ultimate test drive would be. This could be at a dealership or at a Cadillac event.

If I were interested in a CT6 Plug-in, my idea of an ultimate test drive would be having someone drop off a fully charged vehicle for a 24 hour evaluation at my house or place of business, and have the agent spend some time going over the functions of the car with me before releasing the car for the test drive.

Take the cars out on the highway to check out full range adaptive cruise control, and other semi-autonomous features. And also to demonstrate how quiet these cars really are. We took a short spin though a park.

I will say that even though the CT6 Plug-in has limited range compared to a Tesla, the interior of a Cadillac is a much nicer place to be compared to a Tesla Model S that can cost twice as much as the Cadillac I drove today. Unknown if the front and rear massaging seats are an option in the Plug-in, but they are fantastic. The fit, finish and swtchgear in the CT6 are a step up from a Tesla, and you don't have to pay extra for cup holders for rear seat passengers, plus there's plenty of room in the back seat. It's very cozy and well screwed together.

End of snip - The CT6 Plug-in serves its purpose in the PHEV space, no matter where it's built.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/21/business/ford-china-export-focus-mexico.html

 

I test drove a CT6-H here in South Florida about 3 weeks ago. I bought my Volt back in January, so I'm not looking to buy now. The salesman obviously knew this so he could not care less about my visit, I was inconveniencing him.

Anyways, about the car.

I really like the CT6. I like the looks, the size, the packaging, etc. However, the PHEV version shrinks the trunk and puts on some lame wheels. I wouldn't mind owning one, but, at 76k it is more than I'd like to spend on a car.

I will wait patiently to see if GM throws 20-30k on the hood like they did with the ELR, which is why I bought one at the time.

 

About a month ago I saw one discounted to $66k, but now it's around $70K. I too am holding out for ELR-like price cuts. I'm still kicking myself for giving up on the initial high price of the ELR and settling for a volt.