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2017 Chevy Volt Review – Video

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It’s a neat experience driving a quiet, smooth, high-tech pure electric car, and Chevrolet’s 2017 Volt provides this with no range or refueling drawbacks.


Uniquely, the car acts as a pure EV for all intents and purposes, but once its range – EPA-rated at 53 miles combined – runs out, it morphs into a 42 mpg hybrid able to be fueled at any gas pump.

If you really did not want to, you could even choose not to plug it in. That of course would defeat the purpose, but the idea is it’s intended to be a flexible and user-friendly car, and that it is.

Now in its seventh model year, the original “extended range electric vehicle” (EREV) and still only in its class, the Volt's electric range towers above that of “blended” plug-in hybrids that mimic its formula albeit with only about half the Volt’s EV range at best.

Electric range is the primary reason why anyone would buy a plug-in hybrid in the first place. Compared to the Volt’s 53 miles, blended plug-in hybrids like the Ford Fusion Energi, C-Max Energi, Hyundai Sonata PHEV, Kia Optima PHEV, are really not in the same league. They are actually converted variants of conventional models, whereas the Volt is purpose made to be what it is.

It’s an odd trade-off though, because those midsized cars are more akin to one another in interior volume and electric range – 22 miles for the Fords, and 27 miles for the Kia and Hyundai – and so again, the compact Volt is in a class of one.



How so? It is not a blended plug-in hybrid, it is an EREV. Why does that matter? This is not an argument over semantics. People have bandied terms, and we take no stand other than to say the Volt is the only one that stays in EV mode all the way to top speed – 98 mph – and the gas engine stays off.

On the other hand, if one were to take any of the other blended PHEVs out for a drive and stomp on the go pedal do you know what happens? The gas engine kicks on.

What happens when you stomp on the accelerator with a Volt on its way to its claimed 8.4 second 0-60 speed in EV mode? The doubly sized battery digs deeper, and the car is able to stay in EV mode for full speed acceleration runs with zero emissions, and engine off.

Sure the others claim 0-60 in a 7-point something range, but they need gas to do it. In EV mode, a Fusion Energi is otherwise neck and neck with a Ford Pinto at 15 seconds.

Do you know what that means? Functionally, the Volt really is an electric car with extended range!




It’s the only one that is quite like it though an odd exception also hard to pigeonhole is the BMW i3 REx which has a 2.4-gallon gas tank, and is speed and power limited in range-extended mode, especially up hills and on highways. All the others mentioned are as capable in gas or electrified mode, with zero drivability compromises, and as coast-to-coast capable as any conventional car.

Of them all, the Volt is the one most able to offer pure EV driving akin to that of a Nissan Leaf, BMW i3 BEV, Kia Soul EV, Tesla, etc.

The Volt can thus be just as much an EV as these dedicated all-electric EVs, and that's good news for those wishing to curb petroleum and emissions. The U.S. Energy Department says more than 74 percent of drivers can meet their average driving needs with even less than the range the updated Volt provides. The Volt does something even the all-electric EVs don’t, however, in that while it’s an EV when you want it, it’s a hybrid when you need it.

What’s also neat for the wallet is it’s eligible for the same $7,500 federal tax credit full EVs get. This is more than the blended PHEVs are eligible for, as it’s pegged to battery size, and in cases where state incentives are available, the Volt edges them there too.

Obviously the Volt comes with its own set of pros and cons besides. It is its own uniquely styled car, and there’s more to buying a car than energy efficiency, but for folks looking for a bridge between gas and electric, this may be the best thing going.



Amazingly, no one has quite copied the formula. Amazingly also, there are a gazillion people out there who still don’t get this simple fact and pass it up in the showroom – though it is America’s best seller for what that’s worth in this yet-sub market.

Some say the Volt has had a blind spot hanging over it since originally introduced in 2011, with no thanks to all sorts of confusion and politics, rendering it essentially invisible to many buyers.

Whatever the reason, this review focuses on points we think have been somehow overlooked by many consumers – not just the “fans” and those who already “get it.”

For an alternative review on the Volt, you can also check our write-up from the drive we took when GM launched the 2016 model last year.


Styling

Lots of people have said lots of things about the Volt, but most people we speak to think it looks handsome enough.




It does however have more than a passing resemblance to a much-cheaper Cruze. And, from some angles you see a hint of Honda, a pinch of Kia, and a dash of generic car du jour thrown in – and the car has “braces,” as in the silver grille.

On the plus side the car is like an arrow through the air, with sleek coefficient of drag to save energy. It also otherwise blends in like any new normal car, and does not stand out like a science oddity with frog eyes, or weird proportions, screaming look at me, I’m green.

Nope, no holier-than-thou design language expressed or implied there, and that was purely intentional by Chevrolet whose marketers have struggled to position the competent car GM’s engineers have built.

The goal was “mainstream,” and it is inside as well, with Chevrolet family design coupled with functionality, and relative comfort.



The new car has less of a blind spot from the A-pillar which was more robust on gen one, and the back seat space is 0.6 inches longer in legroom, 0.2 inches less on head room.

Shoppers will definitely want to sit back there and play with the front seat adjustment fore and aft to see if the tighter back seat is going to work for them.


Tech Talk

You don't need to know how a car works to know if it works. Nor do you need to know how a car works in order to benefit from it.

So, you can skip this, or for those who want to know a bit, this section is for you, and for the real tech geeks, here's a deep dive into the special drive unit – electric transmission.



Some of the engineering leading to the Volt has been confusing for some people. Others also have questioned whether hybrids are over-complicated and therefore potential maintenance nightmares.

Actually normal maintenance items like brakes tend to go longer due to regenerative braking which uses the motor-generator instead of friction pads, calipers, and rotors as often. Also oil changes can be fewer and farther between, assuming EV usage, with engine off for a proportion of it operation.

To date, the Volt’s reliability record has been relatively good, and its battery has had a superlative record. One driver has even done over 100,000 EV miles since 2012 – 300,000 in total – and reports zero battery charge holding loss – though we imagine there are counter examples out there too.

Realistically, it is expected to lose some range over time, but the Volt’s liquid cooled battery has proven robust.

Driving the car is a new all-aluminum engine and drive unit.




For 2016, the drive unit is 100-pounds lighter, and shed rare earth magnets in the smaller of its two motors and reduced them by 40 percent in the larger. It delivers more torque at 298 pounds-feet over the former 273, and the same 149 horsepower (111 kilowatts).

Inside the drive unit now are two connected planetary gearsets. One motor is 117 horsepower (87 kilowatts), the other is 64 horsepower (48 kilowatts). They are connected by a sophisticated traction power inverter module (TPIM) and merged with a new all-aluminum 1.5-liter Ecotec engine. It features direct injection, 12.5:1 compression ratio, cooled exhaust gas recirculation and a variable displacement oil pump, and is rated for 101 horsepower at 5,600 rpm.

The EPA rates it for 57 all-electric miles in the city, and 49 all-electric miles highway. Efficiency has also been improved in gas operation to 43 mpg city, 42 mpg highway, 42 mpg combined on regular gas from a former 37 mpg combined on premium, and “miles per gallon equivalent” (MPGe) is 113 city, 99 highway, 106 combined.



The 243-pound lighter, 3,543-pound 2016 Volt can accelerate from 0-30 mph in 2.6 seconds – within realm of what a 60-kwh Tesla Model S can do, give or take a tenth of a second. Zero-to-60 mph is estimated at 8.4 seconds.

From its inception, the new drive unit was also designed to enable GM to spin off hybrids – or plug-in hybrids – at will, and the 2016 Malibu Hybrid was co-developed with a similar drive unit, but only 1.5-kwh battery, and no plug.

Power for the Volt is supplied by a new 18.4-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery replacing the former 17.1. Fewer and larger LG Chem cells are used, and the T-pack sheds 20 pounds.

When the battery is depleted – actually when the computer tells it to stop delivering power after about 14.0 kWh used – the gas engine kicks on. This is about 76 percent usable power of the nominal 18.4 total kilowatts, and GM upped it from about 65 percent of the battery used on gen-one.


Recharging takes about 4.5 hours on 240-volt level two power, or 13 hours for 120-volt house current. Many Volt owners don’t opt for level two, but some do. Some also wanted a bigger on-board charger, and it is, 3.6-kw instead of 3.3 which makes charge times comparable when charging at 240 volts. But not available is a 6.6-kw charger as some requested. This would have enabled quicker recharging, and some said they’d have paid extra for it, but this is one of the cost-reducing compromises GM settled upon.
 

Living With the Volt

We already gave away a lot on the Volt’s main benefit up top, but in sum that is what you are looking at: The distinguishing characteristic that puts the Volt in a class of one is the ability to play EV for 53 EPA rated miles, then run as a hybrid.

Can the EV range go lower? Yes, in cold, expect a range drop because batteries like people prefer balmy temperatures. What's more, its electric heating takes much more energy than A/C and can reduce range by one-third or even half in the worst winter conditions.

And, there’s an annoying characteristic below freezing that is only partially adjustable called “engine running due to temperature.” All plug-in hybrids have it, and it basically means the engine must come on at freezing temperatures to provide more heat.



As for summer operation, the Volt we had for a couple weeks was good for its 53 miles combined as rated, and could get a few extra if driven slower. As with a conventional car, efficiency depends on the driver, and conditions.

On the highway, we got 44 miles after going 8 miles in suburban traffic, and the remainder in cruise control at 70 mph on the Pennsylvania turnpike. Slowing for traffic or passing a few times was involved. Other tests would make it reasonable to expect over 40, and the EPA’s rated 49 EV miles is attainable with lower highway speeds as well.

Around bends, the car also shows they did not check fun at the door when making one of the lowest-potential-emissions cars available.

Braking action also is predictable and regenerative braking can be modulated to feed range into the battery. Several times we saw a regular drive of 9.4 miles use only 4-5 miles indicated range given all the regeneration, and use of the regen paddle on the left back side of the steering wheel instead of the foot brake.

Overall, the Volt is all-day comfortable with its plethora of expected infotainment, Nav, adjustable heated – but not ventilated or electrically operated – seats and considerable leg room up front.

Utility wise, it’s a hatch disguised sort of like a sedan; not as spacious as a midsized Toyota Prius, but OK.

Is the Volt A Good Choice?

A full analysis could pore over more details than covered here, but we've provided a few to get started.

The Volt is a compact family car with the usual limitations space-wise. It is probably best for one or two people day to day, or those with kids or people of shorter stature if speaking of who will spend time in the back seat.



Once more frequently touted as a means to amplify fuel savings, carpooling with the Volt is feasible, but your back seat riders better be OK with the space. The lens view in our video does not fully show it can be more cramped back there than it looks. Here is where bigger cars mentioned will edge it out.

Closer comparisons can also be done with tools by the U.S. EPA’s fueleconomy.gov which lets one look at mpg, electricity usage efficiency, electric range, and emissions – tailpipe and upstream on an idealized national average or by zip code basis.

Price for the LT starts at $34,095 including destination fee. An upscale Premier trim starts at $38,445.

Eligible for a full $7,500 federal tax credit – a couple thousand more than the PHEVs – and state subsidies where applicable, its total cost of ownership can prove amazingly good. Considering non-plug-in hybrids don't get any subsidies now, the Volt can be competitive even with the household-name Prius.



Further, though Chevy salesmen have been known to steer people to the easier to sell Cruze, Edmunds True Cost To Own calculator has shown compelling numbers. 2017 data is yet unavailable, but a last-gen 2015 model priced at $32,500 after dealer discounts could earn back the difference and then save an average driver in Southern California $6,000 in five years compared to a $21,400 Chevy Cruze. And now, the new one is better.

Obviously the Volt will not work for everyone, and even its biggest supporters have said it is a shame GM has chosen not to proliferate larger sedan, crossover, SUV and other models using its “Voltec” architecture.

Otherwise, the Volt really is an excellent solution.



HybridCars.com
 

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#2 · (Edited by Moderator)


It’s a neat experience driving a quiet, smooth, high-tech pure electric car, and Chevrolet’s 2017 Volt provides this with no range or refueling drawbacks.


Uniquely, the car acts as a pure EV for all intents and purposes, but once its range – EPA-rated at 53 miles combined – runs out, it morphs into a 42 mpg hybrid able to be fueled at any gas pump.

If you really did not want to, you could even choose not to plug it in. That of course would defeat the purpose, but the idea is it’s intended to be a flexible and user-friendly car, and that it is.

Now in its seventh model year, the original “extended range electric vehicle” (EREV) and still only in its class, the Volt's electric range towers above that of “blended” plug-in hybrids that mimic its formula albeit with only about half the Volt’s EV range at best.

Electric range is the primary reason why anyone would buy a plug-in hybrid in the first place. Compared to the Volt’s 53 miles, blended plug-in hybrids like the Ford Fusion Energi, C-Max Energi, Hyundai Sonata PHEV, Kia Optima PHEV, are really not in the same league. They are actually converted variants of conventional models, whereas the Volt is purpose made to be what it is.

It’s an odd trade-off though, because those midsized cars are more akin to one another in interior volume and electric range – 22 miles for the Fords, and 27 miles for the Kia and Hyundai – and so again, the compact Volt is in a class of one.



How so? It is not a blended plug-in hybrid, it is an EREV. Why does that matter? This is not an argument over semantics. People have bandied terms, and we take no stand other than to say the Volt is the only one that stays in EV mode all the way to top speed – 98 mph – and the gas engine stays off.

On the other hand, if one were to take any of the other blended PHEVs out for a drive and stomp on the go pedal do you know what happens? The gas engine kicks on.

What happens when you stomp on the accelerator with a Volt on its way to its claimed 8.4 second 0-60 speed in EV mode? The doubly sized battery digs deeper, and the car is able to stay in EV mode for full speed acceleration runs with zero emissions, and engine off.

Sure the others claim 0-60 in a 7-point something range, but they need gas to do it. In EV mode, a Fusion Energi is otherwise neck and neck with a Ford Pinto at 15 seconds.

Do you know what that means? Functionally, the Volt really is an electric car with extended range!




It’s the only one that is quite like it though an odd exception also hard to pigeonhole is the BMW i3 REx which has a 2.4-gallon gas tank, and is speed and power limited in range-extended mode, especially up hills and on highways. All the others mentioned are as capable in gas or electrified mode, with zero drivability compromises, and as coast-to-coast capable as any conventional car.

Of them all, the Volt is the one most able to offer pure EV driving akin to that of a Nissan Leaf, BMW i3 BEV, Kia Soul EV, Tesla, etc.

The Volt can thus be just as much an EV as these dedicated all-electric EVs, and that's good news for those wishing to curb petroleum and emissions. The U.S. Energy Department says more than 74 percent of drivers can meet their average driving needs with even less than the range the updated Volt provides. The Volt does something even the all-electric EVs don’t, however, in that while it’s an EV when you want it, it’s a hybrid when you need it.

What’s also neat for the wallet is it’s eligible for the same $7,500 federal tax credit full EVs get. This is more than the blended PHEVs are eligible for, as it’s pegged to battery size, and in cases where state incentives are available, the Volt edges them there too.

Obviously the Volt comes with its own set of pros and cons besides. It is its own uniquely styled car, and there’s more to buying a car than energy efficiency, but for folks looking for a bridge between gas and electric, this may be the best thing going.



Amazingly, no one has quite copied the formula. Amazingly also, there are a gazillion people out there who still don’t get this simple fact and pass it up in the showroom – though it is America’s best seller for what that’s worth in this yet-sub market.

Some say the Volt has had a blind spot hanging over it since originally introduced in 2011, with no thanks to all sorts of confusion and politics, rendering it essentially invisible to many buyers.

Whatever the reason, this review focuses on points we think have been somehow overlooked by many consumers – not just the “fans” and those who already “get it.”

For an alternative review on the Volt, you can also check our write-up from the drive we took when GM launched the 2016 model last year.


Styling

Lots of people have said lots of things about the Volt, but most people we speak to think it looks handsome enough.




It does however have more than a passing resemblance to a much-cheaper Cruze. And, from some angles you see a hint of Honda, a pinch of Kia, and a dash of generic car du jour thrown in – and the car has “braces,” as in the silver grille.

On the plus side the car is like an arrow through the air, with sleek coefficient of drag to save energy. It also otherwise blends in like any new normal car, and does not stand out like a science oddity with frog eyes, or weird proportions, screaming look at me, I’m green.

Nope, no holier-than-thou design language expressed or implied there, and that was purely intentional by Chevrolet whose marketers have struggled to position the competent car GM’s engineers have built.

The goal was “mainstream,” and it is inside as well, with Chevrolet family design coupled with functionality, and relative comfort.



The new car has less of a blind spot from the A-pillar which was more robust on gen one, and the back seat space is 0.6 inches longer in legroom, 0.2 inches less on head room.

Shoppers will definitely want to sit back there and play with the front seat adjustment fore and aft to see if the tighter back seat is going to work for them.


Tech Talk

You don't need to know how a car works to know if it works. Nor do you need to know how a car works in order to benefit from it.

So, you can skip this, or for those who want to know a bit, this section is for you, and for the real tech geeks, here's a deep dive into the special drive unit – electric transmission.



Some of the engineering leading to the Volt has been confusing for some people. Others also have questioned whether hybrids are over-complicated and therefore potential maintenance nightmares.

Actually normal maintenance items like brakes tend to go longer due to regenerative braking which uses the motor-generator instead of friction pads, calipers, and rotors as often. Also oil changes can be fewer and farther between, assuming EV usage, with engine off for a proportion of it operation.

To date, the Volt’s reliability record has been relatively good, and its battery has had a superlative record. One driver has even done over 100,000 EV miles since 2012 – 300,000 in total – and reports zero battery charge holding loss – though we imagine there are counter examples out there too.

Realistically, it is expected to lose some range over time, but the Volt’s liquid cooled battery has proven robust.

Driving the car is a new all-aluminum engine and drive unit.




For 2016, the drive unit is 100-pounds lighter, and shed rare earth magnets in the smaller of its two motors and reduced them by 40 percent in the larger. It delivers more torque at 298 pounds-feet over the former 273, and the same 149 horsepower (111 kilowatts).

Inside the drive unit now are two connected planetary gearsets. One motor is 117 horsepower (87 kilowatts), the other is 64 horsepower (48 kilowatts). They are connected by a sophisticated traction power inverter module (TPIM) and merged with a new all-aluminum 1.5-liter Ecotec engine. It features direct injection, 12.5:1 compression ratio, cooled exhaust gas recirculation and a variable displacement oil pump, and is rated for 101 horsepower at 5,600 rpm.

The EPA rates it for 57 all-electric miles in the city, and 49 all-electric miles highway. Efficiency has also been improved in gas operation to 43 mpg city, 42 mpg highway, 42 mpg combined on regular gas from a former 37 mpg combined on premium, and “miles per gallon equivalent” (MPGe) is 113 city, 99 highway, 106 combined.



The 243-pound lighter, 3,543-pound 2016 Volt can accelerate from 0-30 mph in 2.6 seconds – within realm of what a 60-kwh Tesla Model S can do, give or take a tenth of a second. Zero-to-60 mph is estimated at 8.4 seconds.

From its inception, the new drive unit was also designed to enable GM to spin off hybrids – or plug-in hybrids – at will, and the 2016 Malibu Hybrid was co-developed with a similar drive unit, but only 1.5-kwh battery, and no plug.

Power for the Volt is supplied by a new 18.4-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery replacing the former 17.1. Fewer and larger LG Chem cells are used, and the T-pack sheds 20 pounds.

When the battery is depleted – actually when the computer tells it to stop delivering power after about 14.0 kWh used – the gas engine kicks on. This is about 76 percent usable power of the nominal 18.4 total kilowatts, and GM upped it from about 65 percent of the battery used on gen-one.


Recharging takes about 4.5 hours on 240-volt level two power, or 13 hours for 120-volt house current. Many Volt owners don’t opt for level two, but some do. Some also wanted a bigger on-board charger, and it is, 3.6-kw instead of 3.3 which makes charge times comparable when charging at 240 volts. But not available is a 6.6-kw charger as some requested. This would have enabled quicker recharging, and some said they’d have paid extra for it, but this is one of the cost-reducing compromises GM settled upon.
 

Living With the Volt

We already gave away a lot on the Volt’s main benefit up top, but in sum that is what you are looking at: The distinguishing characteristic that puts the Volt in a class of one is the ability to play EV for 53 EPA rated miles, then run as a hybrid.

Can the EV range go lower? Yes, in cold, expect a range drop because batteries like people prefer balmy temperatures. What's more, its electric heating takes much more energy than A/C and can reduce range by one-third or even half in the worst winter conditions.

And, there’s an annoying characteristic below freezing that is only partially adjustable called “engine running due to temperature.” All plug-in hybrids have it, and it basically means the engine must come on at freezing temperatures to provide more heat.



As for summer operation, the Volt we had for a couple weeks was good for its 53 miles combined as rated, and could get a few extra if driven slower. As with a conventional car, efficiency depends on the driver, and conditions.

On the highway, we got 44 miles after going 8 miles in suburban traffic, and the remainder in cruise control at 70 mph on the Pennsylvania turnpike. Slowing for traffic or passing a few times was involved. Other tests would make it reasonable to expect over 40, and the EPA’s rated 49 EV miles is attainable with lower highway speeds as well.

Around bends, the car also shows they did not check fun at the door when making one of the lowest-potential-emissions cars available.

Braking action also is predictable and regenerative braking can be modulated to feed range into the battery. Several times we saw a regular drive of 9.4 miles use only 4-5 miles indicated range given all the regeneration, and use of the regen paddle on the left back side of the steering wheel instead of the foot brake.

Overall, the Volt is all-day comfortable with its plethora of expected infotainment, Nav, adjustable heated – but not ventilated or electrically operated – seats and considerable leg room up front.

Utility wise, it’s a hatch disguised sort of like a sedan; not as spacious as a midsized Toyota Prius, but OK.

Is the Volt A Good Choice?

A full analysis could pore over more details than covered here, but we've provided a few to get started.

The Volt is a compact family car with the usual limitations space-wise. It is probably best for one or two people day to day, or those with kids or people of shorter stature if speaking of who will spend time in the back seat.



Once more frequently touted as a means to amplify fuel savings, carpooling with the Volt is feasible, but your back seat riders better be OK with the space. The lens view in our video does not fully show it can be more cramped back there than it looks. Here is where bigger cars mentioned will edge it out.

Closer comparisons can also be done with tools by the U.S. EPA’s fueleconomy.gov which lets one look at mpg, electricity usage efficiency, electric range, and emissions – tailpipe and upstream on an idealized national average or by zip code basis.

Price for the LT starts at $34,095 including destination fee. An upscale Premier trim starts at $38,445.

Eligible for a full $7,500 federal tax credit – a couple thousand more than the PHEVs – and state subsidies where applicable, its total cost of ownership can prove amazingly good. Considering non-plug-in hybrids don't get any subsidies now, the Volt can be competitive even with the household-name Prius.



Further, though Chevy salesmen have been known to steer people to the easier to sell Cruze, Edmunds True Cost To Own calculator has shown compelling numbers. 2017 data is yet unavailable, but a last-gen 2015 model priced at $32,500 after dealer discounts could earn back the difference and then save an average driver in Southern California $6,000 in five years compared to a $21,400 Chevy Cruze. And now, the new one is better.

Obviously the Volt will not work for everyone, and even its biggest supporters have said it is a shame GM has chosen not to proliferate larger sedan, crossover, SUV and other models using its “Voltec” architecture.

Otherwise, the Volt really is an excellent solution.



HybridCars.com
 

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#5 ·
Siren Red Tintcoat....same color as my '17. :)

btw, anyone know if CA bill SB 838, which would issue more green HOV stickers, was passed by Gov Brown yesterday? If so, September could be big on Volt sales!
 
#6 ·
Excellent artcle, as always, Jeff!

BTW, do you have a Chevy Volt yourself? Or are you waiting for the Chevy Bolt EV as your first EV? I am one of the few members that has been around since 2010 without a Volt, so my VES (Volt Envy Syndrome) is still heavy on me every time I visit this forum, read your articles, and scan through the member posts. But I will continue to read on, and enjoy more articles and posts as GM continues to electrify the personal transportation, until the day I cannot drive anymore (possibly by 2035). Then I can buy a GM autonomous EV.

Raymond
 
#8 ·
Wow. I owned a gen 1 Volt and wrote many highly technical article on the Volt, but I must say that is THE best article I have read about the Volt. It describes the car to a "T" without being so overly technical that peoples eyes gloss over. It explains what EREV really is all about......on a technical level that almost anyone can understand.
 
#9 ·
Too many great tid bits to list but I like this one:

It is its own uniquely styled car, and there’s more to buying a car than energy efficiency, but for folks looking for a "BRIDGE" between gas and electric,

insert photo of "BRIDGE" :)
 
#10 ·
OT

GM will introduce technology that reads a persons eyes to determine if they are paying attention and integrate it with super cruise. Unfortunately instead of letting the car steer itself GM has the car pull off the road and stop.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gms-driver-assist-technology-promises-to-nag-1473413432
 
#11 ·
Kdawg : It seems like with 53 miles of electric range, the Volt should get a white sticker.For daily commuters it’s essentially a pure EV with zero emissions.

CARB won't give white HOV stickers to the i3 REX, so no way they will ever allow a Gen 2 Volt with a white sticker. BMW even tried to game the system to have the REX qualify for a white sticker, but CARB said no. That's why the original US i3 REX had the gas tank software limited to 1.9 gallons and "hold" mode removed that the euro-spec versions had.
 
#12 ·
GM should feature the article on their website with reprints in the dealerships. The video would be a great addition to any showroom.

The Volt continues to be the number one suggestion I mention to those who want more range than a BEV can provide. With 420 miles total and about 365 on gas only, the range is far beyond Tesla.

For those who desire an electric vehicle with ease of use, superior range and low maintenance, test drive a Volt today!
 
#13 ·
bro1999 : CARB won’t give white HOV stickers to the i3 REX, so no way they will ever allow a Gen 2 Volt with a white sticker. BMW even tried to game the system to have the REX qualify for a white sticker, but CARB said no. That’s why the original US i3 REX had the gas tank software limited to 1.9 gallons and “hold” mode removed that the euro-spec versions had.
I agree. The Volt is not a full BEV, nor is the i3 Rex, because both have a fuel tank with gasoline. And for the same reason, no H2 Fuel Cell vehicle should qualify, either. Only pure BEVs, such as the Chevy Bolt EV and the Spark EV, should qualify.

Raymond

Edit: There are two items in the video that I wish to "nitpick":
First, the wheels have the golden Chevy "Bowtie", so they should had been lifted and rotated to show the "Bowtie" level (that is what they do for showcars). Second, at 3:30 the narrator mentions that "you don't see anymore orange cables", but you can still see one at the extreme right of the open hood near the driver's "A" post. These are details that help improve future videos. I recommend watch "Motorweek" shows and see how they do it for 35 years.
 
#14 ·
Raymondjram : I agree. The Volt is not a full BEV, nor is the i3 Rex, because both have a fuel tank with gasoline. And for the same reason, no H2 Fuel Cell vehicle should qualify, either. Only pure BEVs, such as the Chevy Bolt EV and the Spark EV,should qualify.


Raymond

Now letting PHEVs with puny electric range (especially the original PiP....what a joke that was allowed the green stickers) receive HOV decals is something that should change. Make some minimum AER requirement (30 or 50 miles). The PiP couldn't even go the speed limit in EV mode for crying out loud! What a joke!
 
#15 ·
bro1999 : btw, anyone know if CA bill SB 838, which would issue more green HOV stickers, was passed by Gov Brown yesterday? If so, September could be big on Volt sales!

So far as I can tell not yet, this bill was presented to the gov late August: One site you might look over:
http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=cc905179-ab70-415b-8c71-1203673654f1

Note this site specializes in labor law but explains how the signing procedure operates--
 
#17 ·
bro1999 : Now letting PHEVs with puny electric range (especially the original PiP….what a joke that was allowed the green stickers) receive HOV decals is something that should change. Make some minimum AER requirement (30 or 50 miles). The PiP couldn’t even go the speed limit in EV mode for crying out loud! What a joke!
It should never even get a HOV sticker at all. If I had my way, only domestic EVs get the HOV stickers.

Raymond
 
#18 ·
They should completely stop all green HOV stickers. Those cars are just wolves in sheep's clothing. They can be EV then pop into OPEC suckers. The volt itself will burn OPEC juice just because the gas is old.

They also should be allowed to plug in at public chargers for only 1.5hrs. No reason some punk in a PHEV that has a small battery pack (PIP, Volt, Accord, Energi) should take up a stall for hours at a time on an L2 stall. I mostly see Volts plugged in all damn day. What a joke!
 
#19 ·
Streetlight ,

My morning paper says the gov signed the bill.
This article is well-written, comprehensive and should dispel any buyer remorse, especially for those who, like me, "paid too much" in October, etc. Hey, the car is worth it.
The article, wonderful as it is, is just preaching to the choir. I like the idea of having reprints available to all Chevy dealers who sell the Volt. The apparently healthy used Gen 1 market will help new sales a lot in the long run--if the car can survive the Bolt onslaught......
 
#20 ·
The rear seat comfort issue reminded me of how GM should do a Malibu sized car with Voltec that's similarly affordable. Or what I'd like even better is just a stretch Volt, with maybe 3" more wheelbase added (all going to rear legroom), and a little bit swoopier look from the added length (and please lose the "braces".) The Cadillac CT6 PHEV will sort of fill that true-4-passenger-comfort niche in the premium segment, but sales are expected to be low, with a price that will put it out of reach for most.

I suppose the real market will push GM towards a CUV as next Voltec launch (if there even is one), and that's a good thing, too. But right now they have nothing that really counters the plug-in versions of Accord, Fusion, and Sonata, a situation I'd like to see GM fix.
 
#21 ·
Mark Z :
GM should feature the article on their website with reprints in the dealerships. The video would be a great addition to any showroom.


The Volt continues to be the number one suggestion I mention to those who want more range than a BEV can provide. With 420 miles total and about 365 on gas only, the range is far beyond Tesla.


For those who desire an electric vehicle with ease of use, superior range and low maintenance, test drive a Volt today!

+1

Everybody knows I'm a huge Volt fan, but not so much a GM fan. I applaud GM's engineers and even the fact they sell the Volt at all. It's not always pretty watching them hem and haw about what Volt is, how to market it and where. I'm a huge Tesla fan too - but anyone wanting no limits to travel anywhere, any distance any time - you have the Volt and that's pretty much "it".

I hope for Jeff's article and video to find many readers. I agree this is the best summation of the Volt to date. I'm posting it on my facebook page and I hope you all do too. It's so good because it's thorough AND gives honest summations of Volt's assets over conventional hybrids and PHEVs without glazing over Volt's shortcomings. Truly "fair and balanced" reporting!
 
#22 ·
Every time I've sat in or driven a gen 2 Volt, it amazes me how much GM engineers sweated over the details. I mean, they really listened to all gen one owner's concerns and comments. The car drives better, rides better and the combination between 42 MPG combined on gas, and 106MPGe electric is an astounding feat lost by most.

Pure EVs get the spotlight, and Volt soldiers on in near anonymity doing what no other car made can do. More Prius owners should drive a Volt and they will never think the same way about their Toyota.

Read Jeff's 2015 article on the 2016 Volt here: http://www.hybridcars.com/2016-chevrolet-volt-review-first-drive/.I absolutely agree with what Jeff says when he leads the article: "General Motors has a secret new car called the 2016 Chevy Volt".

WHY GM seems to keep the Volt as it's secret car is up for debate. Much can be said about having to keep under the 200,000 car limit for the IRS tax refund, enabling Bolt EV a chance to sell... And realizing GM is a truck, SUV, CUV and gas car company that Volt kind of flys in the face of - Well, that argument has merit as well.
 
#23 ·
The niche GM sought to fill with Volt is unclear.

Volt is a fantastically usefull tool in the toolbox ( your garage ). If someone is looking for an only car, it has it's limitations.

Volt's shortcomings always make one scratch their head. What were it's designers thinking when they designed Cruze and Volt? Both cars share the same platform, but Volt is nearer a two door coupe with a hatch than it is a compact that can do duty as an only car for a family of 4.

Lots of folks have more than one car, and as such - the Volt is much more versatile than say a 100 mile range LEAF, Focus EV or BMW i3 ( ReX or no ReX ). That formula GM settled on makes Volt so near a perfect commuter + family car, it's nuts. Just a couple of inches more headroom in back, and a couple inches more legroom, and nobody would have that question mark as to how useful the car would be doing double duty.

Then the big questions lurk. Did GM premeditate Volt's limitations as to limit their losses as it is expensive to build? Did managers at GM fear Volt would make the Cruze look worse? Volt makes other carmaker's attempts ( I'm looking at you, Ioniq and Prius Prime ) at building a PHEV look bad.
With it's 53 EPA rated electric miles range, adding a sizable back seat would seemingly make it a choice over Corolla and Civic too. Problem is, Civic, Corolla, Focus, Elantra and Cruze are big money makers for their respective companies. Not good to make your bread-and-butter machines look less attractive.

So we get Volt. Yet Volt still can be your only car if you are single, retired, married without children, or like me - married with 2 children small enough to ride in back of a Volt for years to come. For our family, the times with a third passenger in back are few. There have been school field trips, or times when grandma is along when the lack of that third seating position in back has been an inconvenience, but not so much as to make buying the car a mistake.
 
#24 ·
For literally hundreds of thousands of people in these United ( oft divided ) States, a car purchase means a one-size-fits-all decision. There is a need for most families to utilize a Swiss Army Knife
vehicle with abilities to carry Costco supplies, kids to practice and owners to work. Sure a car like Volt can suffice most of the time. It's not every day or every week you need to bring the cousins or nephews along to the big show, or pack the bikes in back with the camping equipment. There are those times, though - and it takes careful planning and budgeting by most families if it's cost effective and convenient to own two cars when one car could do everything. That's where a lot of minds rest upon the crossover or SUV. It seems a bright decision to own a big square, heavy and tall vehicle that checks off most of those boxes.

Here's the rub. Gas prices. Even if one does not think much about global climate change and living a more environmentally friendly lifestyle, those pesky gas prices can be of major concern. Just like the wind, they are unpredictable. Here in Seattle, for instance, we had 90 degree ( F ) temperatures in May, highly unseasonable, and yet our summer was mild ( 65-ish degrees avg. ). August for us creeped up slowly to those 80 and a couple 90 degree days, enough for me to drag those fans out of the garage and equip everyone's bedroom with cooling relief. Problem is - that lasted ONE WEEK! Fall rushed into our lives in one day! Boom! One week before my kids went back to school, the leaves were dropping off trees and a chill overcame the night. Very unpredictable. Gas prices are such.

Russia and O.P.E.C. nations are making some unprecedented moves to limit oil supply to jack up gasoline prices. N. Dakota oil operators are finding environmental and tribal resistence to building
a pipeline to transit their crude to the midwest. All this and the volatility of the Middle East brings
a whole lot of unpredictability to the cost of a gallon of gas here in the 'States. So far, I've seen prices waver here in the pacific northwest. We're at $2.75/gallon for regular unleaded to a bit lower in some areas. This gets over $3.00/gallon and crossover/SUV owners start to feel the pinch.

Do we buy one car that averages 16-22 MPG with all it's weight and poor aerodynamics because
we need those dispersed times when we want to carry more stuff or passengers, or do we
buy more than one vehicle? Specialized commuter cars seem popular in my region as Nissan
LEAFs dot the territory. These are mostly people that have decided more than one car is
necessary so why not choose a commuter EV as one? Look inside their garages and we see many
have that SUV or minivan handy as well. For a lot of people, two cars just isn't a budgetary
possibility and city dwellers or inhabitants of the older neighborhoods closer in to the city have
very limited parking opportunities.

This is precisely why we all lament the refusal of GM to insert a Voltec powertrain in a crossover
or minivan. Look for Chrysler's Pacifica PHEV to be expensive and produced in limited quantities.
GM already has a better drive system in Voltec. Political results come November and beyond
will surely come into play in decision making at GM. Most likely hybrid versions of the new
Equinox and future Impalas seem most likely in the short term future. Long term, the Model 3
Tesla can push full electrics and possibly full Voltec versions of many GM products ahead. A
truck, maybe? That seems full-on impossible to us now. But who knows what the winds might
blow in?
 
#25 ·
PrxieMoxy :
They should completely stop all green HOV stickers. Those cars are just wolves in sheep’s clothing. They can be EV then pop into OPEC suckers. The volt itself will burn OPEC juice just because the gas is old.


They also should be allowed to plug in at public chargers for only 1.5hrs. No reason some punk in a PHEV that has a small battery pack (PIP, Volt, Accord, Energi) should take up a stall for hours at a time on an L2 stall. I mostly see Volts plugged in all damn day. What a joke!
Truly charging etiquette should hold the day. A note saying: "Unplug me if you're a BEV and you need the charge", etc..

Blowharding like you did surely doesn't create change or progress. Instead, you go onto a Volt fansite and blow cheese in order to vent your anger.

Gee. Good job!

I wouldn't call Volt's 18.4kwh pack a "small battery pack". It's midsized. Those other cars you cited?
Yes, indeed. Still, people who paid for a plug in should be able to plug it in. The scarcity of chargers in our world is major. This is just one more reason the Volt makes so much sense. Imagine you in your BEV following PlugShare or another app to a charger that's ICED, or out of order or just occupied... Then how will you vent your anger? How about in a productive way, working with business owners, coroprations and governments to build more chargers?
 
#26 ·
The labor participation rate is currently at 62.7%, the lowest in 40 years.
That does not exactly imply an unemployment rate of 37.3%, but the stated 5% or so is completely wrong.

Employability and technologies are at odds with each other in this way.

Those unemployed and underemployed and minimally-underpaid are in this 37.3%.

Technology can be the scapegoat for natural frustrations and anger from honest people, (and it IS the honest people, otherwise they would not be frustrated in not finding work), and who just need to scrape by.

But one thing our nontechnical leaders don't do well at all, is to search out honest and extremely capable advancement capabilities and connect them to those that could QUICKLY advance into JOBS TAHT CHRONICLLY remain unfilled. Ten years of unfulfillment, BTW.

Instead, we have job-advancemrnt-restricting behaviours of paranoid nontechnical leaders (both in business and governance) who are unwilling to "take a decisive chance" , and so, for ecample, they go home for seven weeks of vacation/recess, and having done nothing for anyone for 7 weeks of 37.3% of people suffering.

Who can blame our honest and frustrated neighbors, friends, relatives, disabled and able-bodied people?

Commercial and political interests are mostly what the internet search engines are about, to the complete displacement of basic and honest connecting of people to quality employment advancement directly taught practically.

The internet can not prioritize for highly complex learning-tructuring of learning as a classroom does with the physical subject matter at hand for emphasis repeatedly based on locating cognitive "got it"'s
at least four to five " places" of previously-known practical locations in memory.

This takes "in person" dedication to apply breakthroughs successfully at each step, and it is not easy as in watching, say, a video or program. Thoughtful work is fatiguing, and about 2.5 hours twice a week is the maximum efficient time allowed before advancement rates fall off quickly.

Motivations for this can be enforced in a totalitarian state like as is required in China, (or face a quick starvation), or, motivations to advance can be voluntary, as it is most everywhere else.

This poses problems aplenty to time for "a teachable moment", and the internet is the most deplorable device in the enabling for any significant amount of time for " teachabilities" for technological complex tasking advancement so extremely needed by you very capable and honest people underemployed in that 37.3%.

So, anger and frustrations presented here aren't counting for nothing, they are seen and recognized.

Whether or not leaders of all types become energized to " think out of the box" to break with "traditional restrictions" and make more widespread direct, in person advancement training become facilitated to get this 37.3% more able to be connected to these unfilled technical jobs, which can never be outsourced, after all, is *****your choice*****
in the voting booth if you think they haven't or won't.

The best prosperous open mindedness happens when the House and Senate have very close 50/50 representation.
That is when pertisanship is more likely given up in favor of working together to get things done.

So, now is the time to channel adverse frustration energy into constructive dismissals of the divisive so we can work together for prosperity.

Press the "You're FIRED" button for divisive Donald as well.