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Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on what to include in my pitch to management to get a station at work? I'll cover the tax incentives but is that all I have to go with dealing with a large national company?

I am the only one in the lot with an EV too...

I'd run my charging cord out the window if the Windows opened.

My daily commute leave me with 5-10 miles outside of electric range every day.

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Just ask!

I asked my employer not really expecting a positive response. To my amazement, they designated two parking spaces marked "Electric cars only" and installed two 120 volt outlets. Since I'm the only 1 out of a workforce of 300+ I use my own EVSE. If anyone else ever buys a plug-in car, I'll have to go back to my employer and ask them to put in two EVSE's. Who know's maybe they'll agree to that too.

120 Volt trickle charge is plenty for the workplace. I almost always get a full recharge during my 9 hour and 20 min shift.
 

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I found a 110-volt outlet on a lamp post in the employee parking area at work. However, I hike a half-mile when I get home to use a 220-volt charging station in a community parking area, then return two hours later to move my car to my parking area at my condominium complex where electric vehicle charging is banned by the homeowners association.
 

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It's tough to be the first.

My company has two locations. At the *other* location, they have already allowed a non-employee (think: regular subcontractor, or non-employee union agent) to charge their Tesla. That person provided their own EVSE; the company's electrician installed it, and is not charging for the power.

I asked for the same thing. I provided my own (240V converted) EVSE. The company's electrician installed it, and they're not charging me for the juice.

If all you need is 5-10 miles of extra range, I would suggest you ask just for the ability to plug your 120V EVSE in. It does not require much effort on their part, you're not asking for much juice, and you're getting your foot in the door as the first employee who owns a car with a traction battery. Pointing out tax incentives that will not cover the cost of the installation, when you're the ONLY person currently interested in that benefit, seems *really* self-serving.

When the next two or three EVs show up, you can offer your insight (ha) for planning actual charging stations.

If you really want 240V, I suggest going my route. The EVSE remains your "property", so you have standing to have it to yourself. Ask for it to be put in a non-prime parking area...if you're going to be getting free juice from the company, you can't be seen as having an unfairly prominent parking spot, too.

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A 120V outlet capable of 12 amps can add about 40 miles range during the time a car is typically parked during work. That should be adequate for most drivers.

For the company, 120V outlets are much, much less expensive than 240V "charge stations". As an employee I'd rather have access to a bunch of 120V outlets than fight over who gets to plug in to the one 240V station.
 

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Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on what to include in my pitch to management to get a station at work? I'll cover the tax incentives but is that all I have to go with dealing with a large national company?

I am the only one in the lot with an EV too...

I'd run my charging cord out the window if the Windows opened.

My daily commute leave me with 5-10 miles outside of electric range every day.

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Does your workplace have iso14001 certification? We recently got 4x 30 amp stations installed and one major selling point to management was it helps our iso14001 initiatives (environmental improvement) for the year. It also helped we had two volt owners at the time and another person recently joined the volt family so there are 3 volt drivers now.
 

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I found a 110-volt outlet on a lamp post in the employee parking area at work. However, I hike a half-mile when I get home to use a 220-volt charging station in a community parking area, then return two hours later to move my car to my parking area at my condominium complex where electric vehicle charging is banned by the homeowners association.
How is this even possible? Is this even in the homeowner association's purview? I live in a condo complex and I am on our association's board of directors. Our association would have no issue with people charging their EVs at their unit.

This should be illegal for homeowner associations to ban.
 

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My large national company just blatantly says NO. They have already spent millions in charging stations at many larger sites, and the smaller sites just don't get the love. The also won't allow exceptions or workarounds like using an extention cord, plugging into a 110 outlet, etc. early efforts in that arena led to broken/burnt 110v sockets, and a general fear for safety that caused these rules. I understand it, just don't like it. Alas, at the larger sites, it has become parking wars where volts and Tesla's get criticism from the BEV owners who need the charge more then the vehicles with higher capacities or other propulsion options. It's such a mess that it might be easier if they didn't have this at all.
 

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I'm having trouble justifying why I would want to ask my company to install EVSE's or make an outlet available and provide free electricity to me. What's in it for the company? Why do I deserve a perk no-one else does? How does it benefit employees as a whole? It sounds like a bunch of people (who could run on gas) asking for something for free. After all, this IS a Volt forum.

OTOH, asking to have the barely visible parking lot striping re-done or asking for a permanent handicap sign make sense to me.

FWIW, I still have 35 miles of charge left when I get home.
 

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I'm having trouble justifying why I would want to ask my company to install EVSE's or make an outlet available and provide free electricity to me. What's in it for the company? Why do I deserve a perk no-one else does? How does it benefit employees as a whole? It sounds like a bunch of people (who could run on gas) asking for something for free. After all, this IS a Volt forum.

OTOH, asking to have the barely visible parking lot striping re-done or asking for a permanent handicap sign make sense to me.

FWIW, I still have 35 miles of charge left when I get home.
Those are all good points, but not forward thinking enough in my opinion. I look at this as building out ev infrastructure which needs to start happening sometime. Here in Ontario they have proposed all new houses and office buildings be pre wired for ev charging so that in 10-15 years or sooner there is a very robust charging network. It's my much cheaper to pre wire a whole sub division or parking structure rather than after the fact. For example, 4 stations cost us around 20k to install. You could probably pre wire 50 houses for the same amount.

Using the excess electricity we have at night is also part of the plans, and if you want to offload and charge evs over night you need the infra structure.

And just because a workplace installs EVSEs doesn't mean it's free. My workplace is eventually going to charge a nominal fee for charging which I'm totally fine with. It's still cheaper than gas, and cleaner.
 

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I'd be happy with a 110v outlet. What's in it for the company is that it shows they listen to and value their employees. Just another benefit. I know a few people interested in volts at work who haven't bought them yet.

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Since Volt/ELR is PHEV (H=hybrid) I wouldn't ask for special facilities. A BEV owner should have bought a vehicle not dependant on others as well.

ISO comment is interesting though.
 

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I'm having trouble justifying why I would want to ask my company to install EVSE's or make an outlet available and provide free electricity to me. What's in it for the company? Why do I deserve a perk no-one else does? How does it benefit employees as a whole? It sounds like a bunch of people (who could run on gas) asking for something for free. After all, this IS a Volt forum.

OTOH, asking to have the barely visible parking lot striping re-done or asking for a permanent handicap sign make sense to me.

FWIW, I still have 35 miles of charge left when I get home.
There's a lot to be said about big companies supporting the environment, sustainability, etc. Google, Intel, Apple, Facebook, and many others all tout various programs including solar panels in the parking lots, EV charging stations, ride sharing programs to help with congestion, etc. My company even has corporate air shuttles between several big sites to cut costs on air travel.
 

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I'm having trouble justifying why I would want to ask my company to install EVSE's or make an outlet available and provide free electricity to me. What's in it for the company?
Almost every employer has a vested interest in keeping energy costs low. $$$$ Saved in the cost of energy directly translates to a better bottom line. You have made a commitment to owning a vehicle that costs a little more to purchase but reduces demand on energy. For every drop of gasoline you save, multiply that by everybody who owns a Volt, or everybody who owns a plug-in vehicle.

Now look at your company, do they own trucks or vehicles, or are any of the products they use or sell transported by truck? Lower energy costs help them to remain profitable. Giving you a little cheap electricity as a perk is a great way to help keep energy costs low. So yes there's something in it for them.
 

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Now look at your company, do they own trucks or vehicles, or are any of the products they use or sell transported by truck?
Nope. My company is a banking services provider, so we're an Internet-based company....

We have less than 30 employees and there are no other hybrids or EV's in the lot and the owners don't believe hybrids are "green".

We DO encourage employees recycling tho.
 

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We just got chargers installed a few months ago. We are a large manufacturer of electronic components for the automotive industry, and EVs / hybrids have more of our content than traditional units. Several of us at our location presented clever, respectful, persuasive, educational arguments to our corporate facilities manager, but they were not an EV supporter and had other priorities so nothing happened. Eventually we heard a talk by a senior executive who has a Tesla and an i8. We reached out to him with the same arguments and he agreed! He gave orders to the facilities group to install chargers "and not just a few". The key as with anything is reaching the right audience at the right time.
 

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Currently there are two 120V circuits for use for employees with EVs at my workplace, they are just GFA outside outlets, and they were put in by one of the electrical engineers who drove a 2013 Volt, who simply asked permission of the Plant Manager.

I currently charge my Nissan Leaf (BEV) on one of these during the day. The electricity cost is negligible for the amount of juice our materials research centre uses per day (heck, the (free) coffee stations alone in the building probably use more electricity per day than charging 5-10kW into the battery of both cars. Even then, if they decided to charge me a small fee for charging, I'd happily pay it.

Currently, the Ontario Government has some major incentives for businesses to install ESVE stations for their employees, but I'm not sure they offer incentives for the electricity used after the ESVE is in place. I believe (but certainly do not demand) that my company will install a few 240V ESVEs when they tear-up and repave the parking lot for a bit of planned construction on the property. It certainly is a good Idea for a materials research company to set a good example on green/sustainability in research-scale-up of consumables. Besides there are a number of people in the building that are on the TESLA pre-order list. The EVs will be coming in force over the next few years.
 

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Nope. My company is a banking services provider, so we're an Internet-based company....
So you're an internet company??? Does your company use computers? And those computers get delivered by guys in TRUCKS? Do you use paper or office products that get delivered by TRUCKS?

Do you get it? Our economy is tied to the price of oil....Everything is, I repeat EVERYTHING is! A banking services company can sell their services better when people have money! When the price of oil skyrockets, EVERYBODY'S budget is impacted....and guess what! They fill their tank first, and they cutback somewhere else.
 
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