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Sounds polite enough. Perhaps they would be open to exploring other options, like a pre-tax payroll deduction for a "charge card?"
Maybe a big fat lawsuit naming against each board member individually, not just the HOA, might cause them to relax this. The other option, move away. I hate HOAs. They seem to always pick Barney Fife or Taylor's Doose to be in charge, and they let the power get to their head.I only use about $0.60 of electricity to commute each day. When I tried to use a standard 110-volt outlet at my condominium and reimburse the HOA, the HOA banned all electric vehicle charging. The level of ignorance is highlighted by the President of the HOA who said that he talked to his buddy (the expert) who told him that an electric vehicle costs $3.00 per day to charge. The HOA also required me to purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars of liability insurance to cover the risk of fire from my electric vehicle exploding.
Sounds like FUD. Tell them that an electric clothes dryer is more likely to explode than an EV.I only use about $0.60 of electricity to commute each day. When I tried to use a standard 110-volt outlet at my condominium and reimburse the HOA, the HOA banned all electric vehicle charging. The level of ignorance is highlighted by the President of the HOA who said that he talked to his buddy (the expert) who told him that an electric vehicle costs $3.00 per day to charge. The HOA also required me to purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars of liability insurance to cover the risk of fire from my electric vehicle exploding.
As an HOA president I'm going to say not likely.Maybe a big fat lawsuit naming against each board member individually, not just the HOA, might cause them to relax this.
Yep.The other option, move away.
I'll just take exception to that remark. Maybe if the whiners were willing to do the work things would be different. For one thing you might grasp why decisions are made the way they are.I hate HOAs. They seem to always pick Barney Fife or Taylor's Doose to be in charge, and they let the power get to their head.
In Colorado the laws governing HOAs are so weak that many HOAs have run roughshod over their residents. It got so bad here that the state passed a law that prevents HOAs from requiring only water hungry lawns. We're a semi-arid climate and we had HOAs requiring residents plant and maintain water demanding lawns. Some of them wouldn't even allow lawn grasses that require as much as 50% less water.As an HOA president I'm going to say not likely.
Yep.
Let me rephrase that... yes PLEASE DO move! No one wants to sit on a board over pain in the @$$ whiner members. You wouldn't like it either.
I'll just take exception to that remark. Maybe if the whiners were willing to do the work things would be different. For one thing you might grasp why decisions are made the way they are.
And by the way, the board of managers is elected by the members. Try showing up for a meeting or two, you know, like when elections are held.
Power, yes. That's why we give up our free time for no pay, so we can lord over you. Thanks.
The HOA president of the subdivision nearest to our property (we are members only because we have access to the lakes, but we are not in their subdivision) decided to build his driveway on his neighbor's property. When selling his house, he was forced to move the driveway after the survey. He built a second house in the same subdivision, ended up encroaching the new driveway 15 feet into my property, but because it was only the very end of the driveway which has a township easement near the edges of the road, there's not much I can do about it. Then he sold and moved away and no new president has been elected. So it's dysfunctional here. I'm glad I don't live in that HOA, just have access to the lakesAs an HOA president I'm going to say not likely.
Yep.
Let me rephrase that... yes PLEASE DO move! No one wants to sit on a board over pain in the @$$ whiner members. You wouldn't like it either.
I'll just take exception to that remark. Maybe if the whiners were willing to do the work things would be different. For one thing you might grasp why decisions are made the way they are.
And by the way, the board of managers is elected by the members. Try showing up for a meeting or two, you know, like when elections are held.
Power, yes. That's why we give up our free time for no pay, so we can lord over you. Thanks.
We take responsibility or we don't. If you live in an HOA community and you don't like what's happening, run in the election. In my state elections are required every 2 years. Special elections can be held at any time if the board is irresponsible in their duties.Are there benefits to an HOA, yes. There are also some good HOAs, but there are many that aren't well run.
1) This is a he said -> he said. With that in mind....Requiring that much insurance for an EV based on two fires, both of which had sustained damage to their battery packs, is indefensible. One was a Volt that had been crash tested - it wouldn't have been allowed on the roads to begin with. The other was a Tesla that had sustained damage from running over something on a dirt road in France.
Gasoline is far more explosive. The difference is people fear the unknown and EVs are an unknown for many people.
Commercial rates in my area are about half of what the residential are. They are charged the rate of electricity plus a markup, with residential they don't charge much connection fee and instead price it into the rate. I pay 12 cents per kWh or so at home, but my office it is around 6 or 7. However, the monthly office bill is around 1k a month, which is more than 10 times what my house is.Keep in mind that commercial power rates are typically always higher than residential, usually significantly. So if they were charging .75 per hour before and this was cheaper than residential as indicated, they were not even covering the cost of electricity consumed.
Is 86 cents your total cost to charge? In that case, you're looking at about 22 cents/hour if charging from empty. VERY cheap compared to even $1/hour in which case it would cost you $4-5 to fully charge giving you about the distance of a gallon of gas making it cheaper to just use gas. Most people look at what the cost per hour is and associate that with what it would cost them for the total charge not taking into account that it's a per hour rate and we take 4-5 hours to fully charge. At $1.50/hour, you're looking at about $6-7.50, again not too cost effective when compared to gasoline.75 cents is a little low, it costs me about 86 cents to charge at home. $1 would be about right, it would cover the electricity and give them a little profit to cover the installation and maintenance of the EVSEs. I agree that $1.5 is too high but $1 would be fine.
86 cents/hour. Electricity is 21.4 cents/KWh, assume 90% charge efficiency that's 23.8 cents/hour * 3.6KW per hour, 85.38 cents/hour.Is 86 cents your total cost to charge? In that case, you're looking at about 22 cents/hour if charging from empty. VERY cheap compared to even $1/hour in which case it would cost you $4-5 to fully charge giving you about the distance of a gallon of gas making it cheaper to just use gas. Most people look at what the cost per hour is and associate that with what it would cost them for the total charge not taking into account that it's a per hour rate and we take 4-5 hours to fully charge. At $1.50/hour, you're looking at about $6-7.50, again not too cost effective when compared to gasoline.
Not always true. I did participate when our builder HOA was terminating and anyone who tried to speak out against forming a private HOA was shouted down. I got up and left that meeting. Today I'm a lot more ornery and if that had happened I probably would have gotten up and walked to the front of the room and shut down the entire meeting so those who were against the HOA could be heard.We take responsibility or we don't. If you live in an HOA community and you don't like what's happening, run in the election.