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What happens when you run out of Electric & Gas? New YouTube channel, forum member!

Hey everyone!! I've been on the site for about 3 years now. It was all of you who helped me take the plunge on my Volts. I've had 2 2013 Volts and my current is a loaded (minus navi) White Diamond Tricoat with 30k miles.

I started a YouTube Channel about 6 months ago and I cover a ton of stuff automotive related.

I'm into everything car and on the channel I will be reviewing cool and interesting cars, doing tutorials, racing, electric car stuff, you name it.

This is my first of many Volt videos and Invite you to subscribe and join the fun.

Thanks so much,

Alex Palmeri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE8NiDUbRs4
 

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I would be forced to make a Video of me sipping Scotch waiting for the AAA guy to bring me fuel.
 

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Cool video. The next thing to do is run it out completely like you did. Add one gallon of gas and put it in mountain mode to recharge the battery up to the preset limit while you drive. See how many total miles range you get. Once the battery is up to the Red line. Continue driving in MM till you run out of gas. Then use the remaining EV miles to empty. I'd be curious to see if the total miles range is more or less than the MPG rating.


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Did you watch the video?
Just did. I thought it was pretty stupid. Your explanation isn't one. GM did their best to make the car bullet proof and idiot resistant. If you're stupid enough to run out of gas and battery, the car shuts down before you can damage it. I don't think there's really anything new here for most forum members.


As an automotive enthusiast, why would you think it's a good idea to purposely run out of gas in a modern car with fuel injection and a fuel pump in the tank?

Heck, it's your car. You can do what you want to it even if it's learning stuff the hard way.
 

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Thanks for watching. I'm the poster/guy who made the video.

Sorry you didn't like it. I make video's for fun and most help someone or are entertaining.

Honestly don't know what part I pulled from my butt. I literally ran the car out of gas and showed everyone exactly what happened.

It was cool to me to see how awesome the volt is to dig deeper and let you go another couple miles. My explanation of how the volt never full charges and leaves a buffer (obviously ) was correct.

Anyway hope the rest of you enjoyed.

Be sure to subscribe for more Volt and some future Tesla videos.

Thanks
Alex
 

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Yea, I see that. I went back and edited and made it a little more polite.

Your explanation of why the car acted as it did. Members have already managed to run out of gas and charge. The fact that the battery is never charged to max capacity or discharged to minimum isn't the reason you went a couple more miles. That minimum charge left would certainly be good for more than 2 miles. The car is either using up the buffer built up from gas operation or maybe there's a bit more buffer used for reduced for propulsion limp mode to allow you to pull over. One of the more knowledgeable members might clarify further. It's software trying to account for dumb driver behavior, saving the car and the driver. If the car just let you run the battery completely flat you wouldn't have been able to start the engine when you put gas in.
 

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Thanks for the edit.

I understand on this very specific site people may already know what happens.
One thing your missing is that I didn't just make this video for volt forum and people that own volts.

It's on YouTube on a channel that covers mostly gas cars and racing.

I could get all technical but my explanation was quick and to the point so the masses can get an idea of what's going on.

Here are a few things people (maybe not you) would learn from the video.

How far you can travel on low fuel warning

Will the car switch back to electric

How far will that back up electric power go

What does reduced propulsion feel like and exactly how many kw are used at that time

Will it simply start right back up with some gas

For a quick video that people can simply choose to watch I don't think the info was bad or "stupid."
 

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Well I enjoyed your video. I appreciated your comment about Volt owners cringing at the thought of intentionally running down the lifetime MPG. I do that.

The first thing I did when I bought my used 2013 Volt was to take a 2100 mile road trip from Colorado to Arizona and back. Knocked the lifetime economy from 123 to 108. I'm still trying to get it back - 112 the other day.

We're off for a 500 mile trip in a few days and I find myself thinking 'I can't drive the Volt, it will really mess with the numbers.'

But please do continue with your amusing and informative efforts. Not everyone is offended by hearing something they already know.
 

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Not being particularly tech savvy or even young, I don't know how the whole "subscribe to my channel" thing works. Is there a payment incentive or something? All I see here is someone shilling a channel. And no, didn't watch as I'm not going to add clicks until I understand better what this is about...
 

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Haha I bought the car with 3000 demo miles so like 50mpg life. I was able to get it reset at the dealer. Had it at 250 for a year and then my wife and I started to share the car when I started a midnight shift. It's at 165 now after 31k miles.

Thanks for watching the video.
I think I'm just going to change what it says in the thumbnail picture. I believe it's confusing and short change's the real point to the video which is to show you exactly what happens when you run out.

That you have 2.4 miles of battery reserve, how much reduction of power exactly
That was really the point, not to tell people you just put gas in it.

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Haha yes as soon as you click I simply ask for your social security number, address and blood type. It's no big deal,haha.

Seriously I'm just a regular guy holding my 10 month old daughter, waiting for my 2 year old to wake up.

I'm a car nut, own a volt and started a YouTube channel for fun and to help people.

You pay nothing at all. YouTubers do make money on the advertising you see in the video.

Although in 8 months and 11 videos I've made $21 so clearly not here for money. I really just love cars and wanted to get into film as a hobby. I can't even get a check for my $21 because $100 is the minimum to get anything.

I have a full time job as a shop foreman at a shop that fixes police cars. I was a 10 year master certified Mercedes Tech.

I build fast cars, I love electric cars and want to highlight that on my channel as no one else out there had connected the 2 on YouTube.

Hope this helps.

Alex
 

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You mean I didn't need to send those pints of blood?

And I do appreciate your 'taking one for the team' so we don't need to. I found myself wondering if the ICE could start again with the traction battery depleted. I thought that the Volt's engine is not started by the 12v AGM, but instead by the high voltage system. Perhaps there is even more buffer after the bottom to get the ICE started when gas is added?
 

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That you have 2.4 miles of battery reserve
I think you need to do more testing before making a statement like this to the world. Is it always 2.4 miles? I would think the buffering done by the system is variable. If you run out of gas immediately after the buffer is maxed, you may go further than 2.4. If you run out gas just as the buffer is starting to be filled, you may not be able to make 2.4 miles.
 

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Thanks for watching. I'm the poster/guy who made the video.

Sorry you didn't like it. I make video's for fun and most help someone or are entertaining.

Honestly don't know what part I pulled from my butt. I literally ran the car out of gas and showed everyone exactly what happened.

It was cool to me to see how awesome the volt is to dig deeper and let you go another couple miles. My explanation of how the volt never full charges and leaves a buffer (obviously ) was correct.

Anyway hope the rest of you enjoyed.

Be sure to subscribe for more Volt and some future Tesla videos.

Thanks
Alex
Ah, there are always haters. I enjoyed it very much! I loved the suggestion above as an experiment about using a gallon of gas AFTER running out and using MM and then the battery. That would be cool. Great job!
 

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I think you need to do more testing before making a statement like this to the world. Is it always 2.4 miles? I would think the buffering done by the system is variable. If you run out of gas immediately after the buffer is maxed, you may go further than 2.4. If you run out gas just as the buffer is starting to be filled, you may not be able to make 2.4 miles.
So you think it's a good idea to be telling people how the car works on YouTube, when your own understanding is questionable? There's already plenty of misinformation about stuff on YouTube.
 
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