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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/eestor-announces-certification-additional-key/story.aspx?guid={AB6D95CC-0C6B-4734-83CB-990B4451270C}&dist=hppr
 

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Don't hold your breath on this.

I've been following the EEstor story for two years, and I'm as eager as anyone to see it work. However, I've come to the conclusion that we're NEVER going to see an EEstor-powered car. This is based on:

  • -- They haven't succeeded in building even one unit yet.
  • -- Even if they built one, there's no guarantee they could build them for any reasonable price or at any level of reliability.
  • -- The environment in a car is demanding - high and low temperatures, bumps in the road, long lifespan requirements.
  • -- The unit apparently only works as specified at 3500 volts - far too high a voltage to trust in a consumer product. Also, the voltage varies as it's discharged, requiring a sophisticated (and large) power regulator.
  • -- Fully charged, the unit holds 53KHW of energy - the energy in 106 sticks of dynamite. What happens in an accident?
In the best of cases, the EEStor product does work. If so, then it's probably going to be used in less-demanding evironments. I'd love to have one at home to charge-up on off-peak electricity and then run all day on the charge. Also, trains and busses (with large power needs and frequent charges) would work as well. All of these would be better choices than cars.

At worst, it's just another stock pump-and-dump. EEstor is associated with ZENN Motors, and as expected ZENN went up over 7.5% today after the EEstor announcement. Since ZENN goes up whenever EEstor makes an announcement, it wouldn't surprise me if this isn't just a sophisticated stock scam.

In the end, GM should stick with the Li-ion batteries and just build the Volt!
 

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promising, but not a product yet

I will be impressed if/when they have a prototype that works as advertised until then I hope that that day will come, but I'm not going to bet anything on it.
 

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E: Whoops - response to post number 2...

I'm just going to comment on a few of the points in this post.

1. You have no idea if an ultracap has been produced or not. You believe it which is fine. There are people that believe the Earth is flat. You have faith which is good, but not proof.

2. 3500 volts is a LOT less than in the back of a CRT. This is a non-issue.

3. Capacitors take a beating in cars all the time. You car's electronics are full of them. Not any different than the ultracap except for size. Ultracaps are currently used in train engines, buses, and, IIRC the Army's latest tracked Artillery.

4. How many KWH do you suppose a jet aircraft has in it's fuel tank?

I am really just to tired to deal with this attitude tonight...



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Fully charged, the unit holds 53KHW of energy - the energy in 106 sticks of dynamite. What happens in an accident?
The Tesla Roadster has 53kWh in it's battery pack. And it has been in several crashes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2b9aW1qE9E). It didn't blow up. My car has something like 500kWh of energy with a full tank of gas. Cars get into accidents every minute of every day. Unless you are driving a Pinto or are watching a car drive off a cliff in some action movie, it's not going to explode like someone detonated 106 sticks of dynamite (or by your calculation, I have something like 1000 sticks of dynamite just waiting to explode under my trunk :eek:).
 
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good

I am no real expert on this, but if you need better help .you can contact me
 

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Eestor Seems Legitamite

If Eestor were just a hoax or there was no reason to believe that their technology would succeed, then you probably would see "top names" investing or become part of the company.

For instance, Lockheed Martin has a deal with Eestor. Lockheed is a "very" techy company. They aren't going to announce a partnership if they think the company is a joke.

Of course Zenn motors has invested money in Eestor (vote of confidence).

Also, on the board of Eestor is a man name "Morton L. Topfer." This guy was previously "Vice Chairman" of Dell computer coorperation.
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS169754+09-Jan-2008+PRN20080109

Eestor is also invested in by a company called Kleiner Perkins
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/dealflow/archives/2005/09/kleiner_perkins_1.html

Kleiner Perkins was an early investor in Google.
 

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Eestor Seems Legitamite

If Eestor were just a hoax or there was no reason to believe that their technology would succeed, then you probably would see "top names" investing or become part of the company.

For instance, Lockheed Martin has a deal with Eestor. Lockheed is a "very" techy company. They aren't going to announce a partnership if they think the company is a joke.

Of course Zenn motors has invested money in Eestor (vote of confidence).

Also, on the board of Eestor is a man name "Morton L. Topfer." This guy was previously "Vice Chairman" of Dell computer coorperation.
http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS169754+09-Jan-2008+PRN20080109

Eestor is also invested in by a company called Kleiner Perkins
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/dealflow/archives/2005/09/kleiner_perkins_1.html

Kleiner Perkins was an early investor in Google.
 
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