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Honda's FCX Clarity site has many nice details of photos, design, and specs http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/. It will be leased at limited dealerships (totol of 150 units) in South California at $600/mo for 3 years. Bad part is you have to refill it at your designated hydrogen refueling stations, i.e. the dealer.

Note: I did a search and found that this info was already posted.
 

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Not as ugly as the Prius, but still has that infernal flat wedge front end.

Rest of the car actually isn't too bad.

Not as dull as I expected from Honda. But this has to be for PR only.
 

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I was never a big fan of the FCX. I don't think Hydrogen is the way to go. Fuel Cells are way too expensive and so is hydrogen. Chances are the hydrogen that your getting was created by natural gas by a process that gives off CO2 so it's not even as clean. And even if it were clean and cheap there's also the added complexity of going from energy to hydrogen back to energy and there's loss over all those cycles. Why not just keep it simple by using batteries to store the energy. You're probably going to want a battery anyways to recoup some of that lost energy like with regenerative breaking. I never got why hydrogen is getting the attention. It's all hype that doesn't pan out if you look into it.

I'm tempted to say that hydrogen systems were a red herring thrown by the oil companies to distract us from the very easy, real, and attainable goal of electric vehicles. I won't say that though for fear of becoming a conspiracy theorist. I must admit the FCX looks pretty cool though.
 

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oh i almost forget the best part of the fcx, it's got a cool interactive website. GM could definately learn a thing or two here... I think the volt has had the same lame one page text description on the gm site for years now... ever heard of flash? The first place people go if they find out about the volt and are interested is going to be the car's official website and they're just gonna be like eh...
 

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Like the car. Like the idea of the hydrodgen. Don't like the $600 a month payment. Besides, I don't lease cars.
 

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Like the car. Like the idea of the hydrodgen. Don't like the $600 a month payment. Besides, I don't lease cars.

Since this is just a science project I’m guessing you would not be willing to shell out the $500,000 plus price tag for one of these beauties. Would you? This is similar to the EV1 era only these hydrogen cars are way more expensive and harder to fill. All of these cars will be recalled at the end of the testing period. Maybe someone will be smart and smuggle a few over the boarder out of reach from the long arm of the law. These are going to be worth a fortune in 20 years. Museums will pay dearly for this car.

I hope people are not distracted from the fact that this technology, that is supported by government funding, is far from ready for commercial deployment. I am quite sure the quick-charge BEV will out perform the hydrogen car in terms of cost, reliability, efficiency, and driving performance. How about we either fund both technologies equally or don't hamper the BEV? Governments and interested corporations are afraid that the BEV will be hard to make money on. No liquid fuel to tax, too simple for maintenance revenues, etc. The BEV is a scary beast. I admit it. However, I hope governments don't use their power to hold back this obvious technology choice. Let's keep it fair!
 
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