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List price and what they pay are wildly different. When I made s10 armrests they sold to gm for $3.50 and list price was over $100. I would expect that the cost of the pack is 1/5 to 1/4 of the list price.
 

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Not a bad price. I wonder if random person can order one for EV conversion? My guess is GM price is around 8-12k for that. Really, this is comparable to what a total engine replacement would cost. Obviously a different function part, but the motor in an EV should never need replacement unless they are faulty, and are much cheaper than an ICE.
 

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This is the Bolt EV pack, not the Volt pack.
Rat's my bad......thank goodness the Bolt's battery is warranted for 8 years. Maybe by then they will be 1/4 of that
 

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I just googled the battery part number and got the following hits:

GMdirectparts link


They show a 24% discount with a net price of $11,895.12, which is real close to $200/kWh . That is the cost I recall GM saying they expected to have at the pack level, with $150/kWh at the cell level.

Rydell's parts department, one of the bigger Volt/Bolt dealers, gives 16% OFF.

https://www.rydellparts.com/oem-parts/gm-battery-24285978

Lots of other hits, all with 15-26% discount on list price.

We are so far beyond the $750-$1000/kWh cost that was the going price just 6 years ago when the Volt first came out. What a change!
 

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LG gets profit, then GM marks it up more, then you have the franchised dealership mark up. Such fun!
Yep, GM is sure betting on making volume sales of Bolt EV packs for profit. Lol

What's a Tesla 60 pack go for?
 

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They may list a part number and price but you can not order one. Even the dealership parts department can not order one, you have to call GM TAC to get the part and they want a VIN with trouble codes and data from the car before they will send you one. This also includes non-warranty repairs such as damage to the car.
 

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I just googled the battery part number and got the following hits:

GMdirectparts link


They show a 24% discount with a net price of $11,895.12, which is real close to $200/kWh . That is the cost I recall GM saying they expected to have at the pack level, with $150/kWh at the cell level.

Rydell's parts department, one of the bigger Volt/Bolt dealers, gives 16% OFF.

https://www.rydellparts.com/oem-parts/gm-battery-24285978

Lots of other hits, all with 15-26% discount on list price.

We are so far beyond the $750-$1000/kWh cost that was the going price just 6 years ago when the Volt first came out. What a change!
Under $12K here:
http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/oe-gm/24285978

Looks like hvacman beat me to it.
While tax can vary or even be omitted in some states, shipping can't...From GM parts direct: "Estimated Shipping: $434.95"...So still over $12K but still very close...In 8 years perhaps the MSRP will be under $10K shipping included...
 

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In 8 years perhaps the MSRP will be under $10K shipping included...
That would be three years. At 5% to 8% reduction in cell price / year, in 8 years it'd be between $6000 and $8000. In 16 years, it would be between $3100 and $5300. This is why people are predicting the tipping point at 2025 where EVs are cheaper than gasmobiles.

Year Years 5% 8%
2018 1 11400 11040
2019 2 10830 10157
2020 3 10289 9344
2021 4 9774 8597
2022 5 9285 7909
2023 6 8821 7276
2024 7 8380 6694
2025 8 7961 6159
2026 9 7563 5666
2027 10 7185 5213
2028 11 6826 4796
2029 12 6484 4412
2030 13 6160 4059
2031 14 5852 3734
2032 15 5559 3436
2033 16 5282 3161
2034 17 5017 2908
2035 18 4767 2675
2036 19 4528 2461
2037 20 4302 2264
2038 21 4087 2083
2039 22 3882 1917
2040 23 3688 1763
2041 24 3504 1622
 

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I still think that there will be plenty of aftermarket packs showing up before long. I'm guessing that by 2020 I'll be able to get a much larger capacity, drop-in, battery pack for my Volt for around $6k
 

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Some people will wrongly interpret the scenario as "end of warranty = must buy new battery" just as they did with the Volt
 

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While tax can vary or even be omitted in some states, shipping can't...From GM parts direct: "Estimated Shipping: $434.95"...So still over $12K but still very close...In 8 years perhaps the MSRP will be under $10K shipping included...
Would there be a kickback from GM for the old core if you were doing a battery replacement on your Bolt?...assuming you were 8 years out and out of warranty
 

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I'm guessing that by 2020 I'll be able to get a much larger capacity, drop-in, battery pack for my Volt for around $6k
Not sure how the software will handle a higher capacity battery being dropped in. It'd be great to think that doing so could yield 20-50% more EV range vs the factory pack, but I'm thinking that the factory programming might pitch a fit when it thinks "Ummm, something is wrong here" after the battery behaves differently then what it's programmed to expect.
 

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Even if you get a battery, you can't just pop it in.
 
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