[bro1999]

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1110322_vw-to-tesla-anything-you-can-do-we-can-do-better

Have to take anything VW says with a grain of salt *coughdieselgatecough*, but VW does have more of one thing than Tesla: actual $$$ on hand

 

[Steverino]

Yet another VW press release about car's it will/may have 8 years down the road. Yawn.

 

[El Dobro]

NEXT, THE WORLD!

 

[saghost]

And thus VW/Audi continues their long reign as the uncontested champion of EV press releases and announcements.

Maybe someday they'll even release a Bolt competitor, let alone a car that comes close to a Tesla...

 

[Qinsp]

The EV race started in earnest in 2011.

Today VW has a Golf with batteries stuffed inside, that is right now 82 miles, but will soon be 125 miles. Both are just under 10 seconds to 60mph like 2011. And they have a PHEV A3 that has 0-16 miles AER and uses Premium to get 34 mpg. It is essentially a Golf version of the Volt.

So, their words are not quite up to their history of actual effort.

 

[Bacardi]

The EV race started in earnest in 2011.

Today VW has a Golf with batteries stuffed inside, that is right now 82 miles, but will soon be 125 miles. Both are just under 10 seconds to 60mph like 2011. And they have a PHEV A3 that has 0-16 miles AER and uses Premium to get 34 mpg. It is essentially a Golf version of the Volt.

So, their words are not quite up to their history of actual effort.

Pretty much was going to say the same thing! I'll add, all their products are FWD only...

 

[Raymondjram]

I remember having a EV (battery powered) Beetle many years ago, and it wasn't made by Volkswagen. But it was a scale model and too small to ride in or on it.

 

[volt11]

If you read the article, at least VW is stating a clear ambition to beat Tesla. Seems to me GM has been acting like it's conceding that market to them, with no public release at all about answering Tesla since the "we'll form a committee" statement a few years ago.

 

[BAZINGA]

What everyone has said is true, but what I take from this (and it could apply to GM/Ford/FCA/MB/BMW) is this, if they wanted too (they have the financial capital) they could bury Tesla, but the question is this - do they want too? Do they have the guts to try?

My take on those questions is a NO.

 

[El Dobro]

BMW is using Tesla to shake up its employees.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-factor-to-rally-troops-in-pivot-to-electrics

 

[Mister Dave]

Taking the Tesla reference out of it.....

He suggested that the company's dedicated "MEB" electric-car architecture will give it cost advantages........

Common underlying architectures allow dozens of different models from different brands to use underpinnings with common parts, technologies, and even assembly sequences.

It's a strategy that could work for them. The other half of the equation is the general public's buying practices. It's not like the greater majority is falling all over EVs in general.

 

[saghost]

What everyone has said is true, but what I take from this (and it could apply to GM/Ford/FCA/MB/BMW) is this, if they wanted too (they have the financial capital) they could bury Tesla, but the question is this - do they want too? Do they have the guts to try?

My take on those questions is a NO.

This is what a lot of folks have been claiming. I think any of them that tried would find it's not as simple as throwing money or people at the problem, and that Tesla is not so easily de-throned/buried. However, the traditional big dogs would really like you to believe Tesla has nothing special and they could easily beat Tesla if only they tried.

Of course, then they have to explain to you why they haven't tried in a fashion that sounds reasonable and not greedy/selfish...

 

[Bacardi]

This is what a lot of folks have been claiming. I think any of them that tried would find it's not as simple as throwing money or people at the problem, and that Tesla is not so easily de-throned/buried. However, the traditional big dogs would really like you to believe Tesla has nothing special and they could easily beat Tesla if only they tried.

Of course, then they have to explain to you why they haven't tried in a fashion that sounds reasonable and not greedy/selfish...

If you recall, Ford first admitted to buying a Model S to take it apart then was CAUGHT red handed overpaying for a Tesla X...

http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-overpays-for-tesla-model-x-to-test-2016-4

Some of the issues are imaging...Ford or Chevy isn't really in competition with Tesla, Lincoln and Cadillac are...

 

[DrMiguelitoLoveless]

Less talk, more production cars on sale in 50 states.

 

[Flux Capacitor]

Well, VW has certainly proven they can lie & cheat better than Tesla...I'll give 'em that.

 

[tgreene]

It's amazing Fiat/Chrysler's emissions defeat has flown almost completely under the radar and VW is (according to the press) the only automotive manufacturer to do any wrong.

 

[saghost]

Well, VW has certainly proven they can lie & cheat better than Tesla...I'll give 'em that.

That's not what the folks making long threads about supercharging rate limits this week seem to think.

 

[samotlietuvis]

VW can do better cheating for sure.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Yet another VW press release about car's it will/may have 8 years down the road. Yawn.

That's what I was thinking. It sounded great and all, high hopes, shoot for the moon...but I'll believe it when I see it.

The whole thing read to me like this:

"Look at us, we're gonna be super duper green, woohoo, forget about all that emissions stuff....GREEN! Did you hear us? GREEN, ELECTRIC, ZOMG! It's gonna be awesome, tremendous, we're gonna kick butt! All aboard the green train!!!!1!"

 

[llninja]

I've never owned a VW, and probably never will. Though that Porsche EV concept car sure looks sweet. The first company to build an EV CUV/SUV for $50K might win this race. Model X is too expensive, the Bolt is too compact, the RAV4 EV wasn't sold in all 50 states. We'll have to see what vw and the rest of the industry comes out with.

8 years is far too long to wait. Even 2019 seems for the first cars to arrive seems like an eternity.