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There is another current thread suggesting GM needs to do more about reducing the Volt's weight, starting with the key fob, the hatch, the body panels, etc. This VW could be the prototype!

The VW owner made a mistake in giving advance notice he was stripping the car. Forewarned, VW changed the game. Would have been much better to drive up in that Thing (small VW joke) catching VW with their pants down, he might have pulled it off. Now the lawyers and delays.
 

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Not gonna happen. Childish.
... but not criminal, unlike VWs actions.

Which is worse, childish, or criminal?

I'd say that substantial components were missing from that, though, and not returned as a whole-car. There is a level of 'reasonableness' and interpretation in law, which cannot by words alone define every possible situation, it only needs to describe sufficiently for a court to understand the original intention.

Deliberately degrading a thing to the absolute limit of the literal court order, only for the purpose of degrading it, would be a contempt of court in any situation, whether it was the return of a house or car in a divorce, for example.

I know US courts don't follow quite the same principles of common law as established by precedent here in the UK, but it is not too dissimilar and the same considerations would apply.

I'd have limited my bile to a bit of graffiti on the bodywork, I think.
 

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This is truly pathetic and notice this guy is a car salesman! VW is buying back the car. Why do stunts like this? Cases like this should immediately be dismissed without recourse and he should be stuck with the car. Frivolous...
 

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Guy should have at least consulted a lawyer before stripping his car.

2 wrongs don't make a right, but it's still funny. Unless that guy ends up getting denied his settlement money. Then it won't be so funny to him. :)
 

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http://jalopnik.com/volkswagen-refuses-to-buy-back-the-stripped-out-car-rig-1790345158

That's awesome. A yuuuuuge middle finger right at VW. haha

The car is still street legal...nothing legally required for being street legal is missing....just everything else. Hopefully VW comes to its senses and takes back the car. They already have enough bad press, I think. :p That'd be awesome if more people did this.

Good for VW. There is no way that is acceptable and they should certainly not honor the buyback.
That is like homeowners around here selling off fixtures and cabinets in their homes before they walked away from them forcing the bank to foreclose. It's BS plain and simple.
 

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Not cool at all. Well, literally, the guy would be very cold here. Where this is not cool is I imagine the guy sold all the parts that he stripped out and was just trying to abuse the system?

It isn't street legal without the front fenders. The wheels have to be covered.

I hope VW does the same in return and follows their buyback to the T and makes it as difficult for him as possible.
 

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I don't get the point of this. Does he intend to profit by selling the parts? Is he just trying to undermine VW's option of fixing the emissions and reselling the car, in order to harm the company? Seems childish and outside the intent of the buyback agreement. Keep in mind that you can't really punish a company by doing that. You are harming the stockholders, who are innocent.

Plus it is wasteful and bad for the environment to "total" a car that would otherwise have possibly been fixable. If the car is destined for the crusher, then I see no harm, but I doubt that is the case. I hope the courts tell him to keep it or put it back together. If this is allowed, and there is profit to be made from selling the parts, a whole lot of other people will be doing the same thing.
 

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Not cool at all. Well, literally, the guy would be very cold here. Where this is not cool is I imagine the guy sold all the parts that he stripped out and was just trying to abuse the system?

It isn't street legal without the front fenders. The wheels have to be covered.

I hope VW does the same in return and follows their buyback to the T and makes it as difficult for him as possible.
Yes, deduct the repair costs from the buyback, at full retail pricing of course :)
 

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VW should be allowed to settle this guy's buyback claim by providing him with a "comparable" car that has legal emissions. VW could probably have some fun with that, and it would make for another good article.
 

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Vandalism (damage of $5k - $100k) in Ohio is a fourth-degree felony with the potential for 6 - 18 months in jail and a $5k fine. It wouldn't be much of a stretch for VW to try that route.
 

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Vandalism (damage of $5k - $100k) in Ohio is a fourth-degree felony with the potential for 6 - 18 months in jail and a $5k fine. It wouldn't be much of a stretch for VW to try that route.
Dude, the car is 100% his. Especially if it's a 2010 model. Which probably means he bought it in 2009. Very little chance he is still paying off a loan.

Assuming the title is 100% free and clear and in his name, he can do whatever the hell he wants to it. This jail talk is nonsense.
 

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Dude, the car is 100% his. Especially if it's a 2010 model. Which probably means he bought it in 2009. Very little chance he is still paying off a loan.

Assuming the title is 100% free and clear and in his name, he can do whatever the hell he wants to it. This jail talk is nonsense.
Nobody disputes what he can do to his own vehicle. The issue is he's trying to pass it off to VW for a 100% buyback.
 

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Dude, the car is 100% his. Especially if it's a 2010 model. Which probably means he bought it in 2009. Very little chance he is still paying off a loan.

Assuming the title is 100% free and clear and in his name, he can do whatever the hell he wants to it. This jail talk is nonsense.
I didn't say he would go to jail, or even get fined. I just imagined a scenario where VW's lawyers come up with an argument such as "after he entered into a binding agreement to transfer ownership of the vehicle, he purposely and willfully diminished the value of said vehicle." blah blah blah (more lawyer speak)

This is, of course, different from VW's purposely and willfully deceiving people with the whole emission stuff - before they agreed to sell the vehicle to anyone. :)
 
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