[microVOLT]

The ID4 a good looking vehicle and seems to be well put together. However, it's still a bit austere on the inside and some of the trim feels a bit cheap for a $40K-$50K vehicle.

Take a look at the inside door frames for example. Could VW spend a couple of bucks to cover and trim the bare metal door frame for this $40K to $50K car?

Look at a Volt's door trim compared to a VW ID4. Granted it's a minor detail but subtle details do make a difference!

 

[Steverino]

The ID4 a good looking vehicle and seems to be well put together. However, it's still a bit austere on the inside and some of the trim feels a bit cheap for a $40K-$50K vehicle.

Take a look at the inside door frames for example. Could VW spend a couple of bucks to cover and trim the bare metal door frame for this $40K to $50K car?

Look at a Volt's door trim compared to a VW ID4. Granted it's a minor detail but subtle details do make a difference!

Well, my VW Beetle had metal inside door frames with an inset plastic-wrapped fiberboard panel. Maybe they are simply paying homage to their heritage...

 

[microVOLT]

Well, my VW Beetle had metal inside door frames with an inset plastic-wrapped fiberboard panel. Maybe they are simply paying homage to their heritage...

I've own a 1973 Super Beetle, 2004 Beetle Cabriolet and 2012 Beetle Turbo and I understand the retro appeal. The Beetle has been around a long time but I don't recall seeing an ID4 as a boy

 

[BenjaminD]

The ID4 a good looking vehicle and seems to be well put together. However, it's still a bit austere on the inside and some of the trim feels a bit cheap for a $40K-$50K vehicle.

Take a look at the inside door frames for example. Could VW spend a couple of bucks to cover and trim the bare metal door frame for this $40K to $50K car?

Look at a Volt's door trim compared to a VW ID4. Granted it's a minor detail but subtle details do make a difference!

I've had the exact same thoughts when we test drove the ID.4 Seems like VW is cutting a lot of corners these days. It forces discerning customers to go for the more expensive Audi Q4, so part of their business model I suppose?

 

[microVOLT]

I've had the exact same thoughts when we test drove the ID.4 Seems like VW is cutting a lot of corners these days. It forces discerning customers to go for the more expensive Audi Q4, so part of their business model I suppose?

I think you're right but $10K more is awfully expensive to pay for door trims and some rings on the grille. 😁

 

[Packard V8]

I think you're right but $10K more is awfully expensive to pay for door trims and some rings on the grille. 😁

Demonstably a good business model. Toyota has made billions in profits building a Camry with leather seats and gold trim and convincing the proles they're buying a Lexus.

jack vines

 

[Steverino]

Demonstably a good business model. Toyota has made billions in profits building a Camry with leather seats and gold trim and convincing the proles they're buying a Lexus.

jack vines

Pretty sure I read that VW is doing just that, taking the VW, adding a few upgrades, badging it an Audi and selling it for way more. So Audis are technically Volkswagens but at a much higher price. Most parts are shared between the two brands, the vehicles sit on shared chassis. Of course VW and Toyota are not alone in this game. Look at the (initially) $75k Volt called the Cadillac ELR

 

[FI Spyder]

Just read that VW is going to build a $35,000, smaller battery, ID4 in the States. They are going to have to do better than that if they are competing against the $30,000 EV Equinox with Ultium technology.

 

[Steverino]

Just read that VW is going to build a $35,000, smaller battery, ID4 in the States. They are going to have to do better than that if they are competing against the $30,000 EV Equinox with Ultium technology.

Except VW has the $7500 tax credit advantage. If that gets restored for Tesla and GM ...

 

[pcasey]

So, has VW stopped cheating on their emissions tests?

 

[hellsop]

So, has VW stopped cheating on their emissions tests?

Indirectly, last I heard. I remember an announcement that they stopped selling diesels in the US.

 

[FI Spyder]

Except VW has the $7500 tax credit advantage. If that gets restored for Tesla and GM ...

Everything is still up in the air with that, isn't it. In Canada we get the rebates after taxes (not tax rebates) regardless what the car (so long as it's under $55,000 ($44,000 USD).

 

[microVOLT]

Given the choice of a used 2019 Tesla Model 3 Long Range and a new 2022 VW ID4 Pro 4Motion. Both for $45K but you get a $7500 federal tax credit for the VW. Which one would you buy?

 

[Bill Step]

a gm volt and get it tucked to me when the battery fails. I'm being sarcastic,so chill

I'd probably take the VW

 

[Sly Bob]

I would get the ID.4 as well.

 

[microVOLT]

This was my Beetle.

 

[Steverino]

Based on the rear window exterior vent, looks like a 1971? Mine was a 1970, green when bought. By the time I was done it was red, white, black with a checkerboard hood and a extended visor over the windshield.

 

[microVOLT]

1973 Superbeetle. But there was nothing super about it.

 

[JuneBug]

1973 Superbeetle. But there was nothing super about it.

But…it had a CURVED windshield!! 😀