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Wow. Very interesting show. This is the most excited I've seen "regular" car folks get about an electrified car. Sounds like Chrysler has a winner on its hands. Hopefully we'll see more choices as we move forward.
 

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We have been clamoring for a "family sized" EREV since day one. Suddenly FCA (left for dead) is a player.

Sales will tell us all we need to know.
 

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One piece of info in the video that I had not seen published before is the ICE will turn on if you floor it.

When I bought my volt 5 years ago, I did not have kids. Now I have 2. I foresee a Pacifica in my future :)
 

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When I bought my volt 5 years ago, I did not have kids. Now I have 2. I foresee a Pacifica in my future :)
We now have 2 grand kids and I need to haul 4 adults and 2 kids in car seats 3 to 4 times a month, even our Equinox can't carry this load.

Funny, just when I thought I was all set to retire I find our needs have changed and what I thought were the perfect retirement vehicles no longer work. I could down size to ONE vehicle with this thing. Dam you FCA ha ha.
 

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One piece of info in the video that I had not seen published before is the ICE will turn on if you floor it.
So the Hybrid Pacifica may have a smaller electric traction motor than what we all expected. It seems similar to what Toyota and Ford have in their hybrid models. This is just what I learned in a YouTube Video from Weber Tech about EDUs, and the video commentator mentiond that the Hybrid Pacifica would have such a similar EDU as the Ford's HF35. I mentioned this concept here a week ago, and it may be true now that Chrysler licensed the Ford EDU for their Pacifica Hybrid.

We have to wait until Chrysler themselves reveal the source of their EDU, or a technical report such as an SAE paper reveals that source. But, if it was true, then that EDU may be the common element for all future hybrids from Chrysler, just as the Chevy Volt's 5ET50 has become for the new Chevy Malibu Hybrid. This will make hybrids easier to build and sell!
 

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We now have 2 grand kids and I need to haul 4 adults and 2 kids in car seats 3 to 4 times a month, even our Equinox can't carry this load.
Wait until the NAIAS happens next month. The "Wall Street Journal" has leaked out that GM will offer a new Chevy Traverse model for 2018. If it is a hybrid/EREV, then your dream SUV has arrived!
 

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One piece of info in the video that I had not seen published before is the ICE will turn on if you floor it.
I have one that behaves similarly and it's not the end of the world. Trust me.

We had two vans through the years after the kids were born; highly recommended. Right tool for the job I say.
 

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And man the silver teal looks sweet in the Build/Price tool on Chrysler's website....
 

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The Pacifica is a very exciting vehicle. I'd love to see a bit more range and pure EV over the entire performance envelope until the battery is depleted but these are not show stoppers.

I think a Gen 2 Voltec drivetrain would be better in these respects and wish GM would offer it in an electrified truck or van. I think Equinox/Terrain will offer a Voltec hybrid soon as this would be pretty similar to the drivetrain in the Malibu Hybrid, but I prefer the Pacifica's larger cargo capacity and the fact that is a plug-in with a significant amount of all electric range. I'm a woodworker so the ability to transport full sheets of plywood and 10-12 foot planks of hardwood is important to me.
 

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Pacifica Hybrid definitely in our future. Pretty compelling package, even if it is a minivan!
I think this looks as good as the SUVs and CUVs. The two women on the show thought the same BTW. Since women may very well be the driving force behind this purchase, that may count for something.

The Pacifica is a very exciting vehicle. I'd love to see a bit more range and pure EV over the entire performance envelope until the battery is depleted but these are not show stoppers.

I think a Gen 2 Voltec drivetrain would be better in these respects and wish GM would offer it in an electrified truck or van. I think Equinox/Terrain will offer a Voltec hybrid soon as this would be pretty similar to the drivetrain in the Malibu Hybrid, but I prefer the Pacifica's larger cargo capacity and the fact that is a plug-in with a significant amount of all electric range. I'm a woodworker so the ability to transport full sheets of plywood and 10-12 foot planks of hardwood is important to me.
I don't think you would get full performance in EV mode with the Voltec drive train. A souped up version of the Voltec drive train is in the CT6 hybrid and it doesn't have full performance in electrical mode -- it's a PHEV rather than an EREV. Just too much mass for the pack and motors.
 

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I liked the many references to the Volt and Bolt in the video. That one guy, Anton, seems to be a big fan!
 

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I think that they really misread the fuel economy aspect. Yes, gas is cheap, but we're talking about minivans, which are inefficient vehicles. If it can get 30mpg instead of say 22mpg that's a few hundred dollars per year, on top of the savings from the pure electric miles, on top of the electric driving, on top of avoiding gas stations.

There's a lot to like about it. There's one key problem with it, and that's 2WD.

People here keep asking for SUV form-factor, but that's not really going to do great in the segments if they can't deliver a decent AWD system.

Shame that nobody actually answered the question of why it took so long to get a hybrid minivan on the market.
 

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There's one key problem with it, and that's 2WD.

People here keep asking for SUV form-factor, but that's not really going to do great in the segments if they can't deliver a decent AWD system.
AWD sells CUVs and Minivans, that's true. But when it comes to real world use a set of snow tires will do much better than AWD. The problem isn't getting going, the problem is control when you are trying to turn or stop on ice or snow, and no matter how many wheels you used to get up to speed, they won't help you stop or turn. Plus, AWD components are now fighting for the space and weight needed for the battery and drive motors.

That said, what would really shine for AWD on a system like this would be to add a small drive motor to each rear wheel, to be used only in low traction acceleration - not full time use, just as needed. That takes care of the traction issues most drivers think they need to worry about without adding the weight and complexity of a rear output/driveshaft/differential. They could even be used for 4 wheel regenerative braking!
 
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