[NeoGenesisMax]

I made it a whole year on one tank of gas. 65% left. I got the "Fuel Maintenance" screen.

 

[obermd]

How many miles?

 

[DMC5180]

I made it a whole year on one tank of gas. 65% left. I got the "Fuel Maintenance" screen.

Congratulations, perhaps you should have bought a LEAF so you could go beyond a 20 mile radius of your home without the fear of burning gas.

How many EV miles is that for the year?

You consumed a whopping 3 gallons of gas. About 110 miles worth.


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[madmike]

Well I think this is awesome...and if he had a leaf he very well may have been left high and dry those couple of times he needed gas

 

[saghost]

Congratulations, perhaps you should have bought a LEAF so you could go beyond a 20 mile radius of your home without the fear of burning gas.

How many EV miles is that for the year?

You consumed a whopping 3 gallons of gas. About 110 miles worth.


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Funny thing about that...

A detailed study showed that Volt drivers actually do more EV miles on a daily basis than Leaf drivers:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...e-electric-miles-than-nissan-leaf-drivers-why

There are probably a couple things going on here. First, there's a self selection bias. People that buy Leafs do so because they know it'll be able to cover their normal driving, while Volt drivers may or may not be in the same category.

Second, there's EV miles on a long trip. A Leaf driver that takes a long trip probably does so in either a rental car or a second car (there are some folks dedicated enough to stop for a DCFC every hour for most of an hour, but not that many.) Those ICE cars add zero EV miles to the driver's daily total, while the Volt driver adds a full pack worth before the engine comes on.

Third, there's safety margin. No one wants to end up on the side of the road, so a Leaf driver won't attempt a drive that's right at the edge of or a little beyond their range. Volt drivers will, knowing that they can always finish the trip on gas (well, Ari_C probably won't, but most Volt drivers are only mildly annoyed when the engine comes on. )

 

[DMC5180]

Well I think this is awesome...and if he had a leaf he very well may have been left high and dry those couple of times he needed gas

Only if he used the gas on one extended round trip of 150 miles total and did not have destination charging available.

An even bigger statement would be doing it with a Plug In Prius with its 12 mile EV radius Bubble.

I don't consider it a Victory to say My car rules my life by not letting me drive it anywhere I choose for fear of using Gas. Then There are the ones that drive other Gas cars when they need to go any distance just so they don't burn the same fuel in the Volt.





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[DMC5180]

Funny thing about that...

A detailed study showed that Volt drivers actually do more EV miles on a daily basis than Leaf drivers:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...e-electric-miles-than-nissan-leaf-drivers-why

There are probably a couple things going on here. First, there's a self selection bias. People that buy Leafs do so because they know it'll be able to cover their normal driving, while Volt drivers may or may not be in the same category.

Second, there's EV miles on a long trip. A Leaf driver that takes a long trip probably does so in either a rental car or a second car (there are some folks dedicated enough to stop for a DCFC every hour for most of an hour, but not that many.) Those ICE cars add zero EV miles to the driver's daily total, while the Volt driver adds a full pack worth before the engine comes on.

Third, there's safety margin. No one wants to end up on the side of the road, so a Leaf driver won't attempt a drive that's right at the edge of or a little beyond their range. Volt drivers will, knowing that they can always finish the trip on gas (well, Ari_C probably won't, but most Volt drivers are only mildly annoyed when the engine comes on. )

That is interesting. I also over-estimated the LEAFs range. I thought it was around 100 miles. I see in the article it said, 76 miles range average. I wish I had that EV range in the Volt.


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[saghost]

That is interesting. I also over-estimated the LEAFs range. I thought it was around 100 miles. I see in the article it said, 76 miles range average. I wish I had that EV range in the Volt.


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The new ones with the 30 kWh pack are rated for 107 miles - which it achieves by always charging to 100% with no TMS, so it's only realistic for the first six months...

 

[BAZINGA]

I just went through my 1st FMM after over 5 years of Volt ownership and for fun ran my tank dry and kept on driving.


This is my VoltStatus results after the FMM (I burned off 5 gallons of gas) still at 96% all electric after the FMM.

 

[Jefferios]

That can't be good for the fuel pump to run dry that long.

 

[tacman7]

I too worry about things that are not used going downhill.

I have to buy gas every couple of months.

So doing a lot of EV driving with a little gas once in a while.

Overall in the 150mpg range.

 

[hellsop]

That is interesting. I also over-estimated the LEAFs range. I thought it was around 100 miles. I see in the article it said, 76 miles range average. I wish I had that EV range in the Volt.

You do, if you drive like Ari. And you probably already use more EV miles than you would if you had that range but no ICE backup.

 

[hellsop]

That can't be good for the fuel pump to run dry that long.

What car have you ever heard of that runs the fuel pump when the ICE is off?

 

[turboguy327]

That can't be good for the fuel pump to run dry that long.

The fuel pump isn’t on unless the engine is running. And short bursts it will be fine. Hood rats drive their cars around on $3 of gas and their pumps survive over 100k miles.

 

[llninja]

Congratulations, perhaps you should have bought a LEAF so you could go beyond a 20 mile radius of your home without the fear of burning gas.

How many EV miles is that for the year?

You consumed a whopping 3 gallons of gas. About 110 miles worth.


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I don't wish a Leaf or Prius onto anybody. That's just mean.

 

[caskConditionedAle]

I made it a whole year on one tank of gas. 65% left. I got the "Fuel Maintenance" screen.

If you're the victor, who is the loser? Instead of having a wonderful time taking a long scenic drive in your marvelous vehicle, you just wasted that gasoline. Sounds like you were both the victor and the loser.

 

[DMC5180]

If you're the victor, who is the loser? Instead of having a wonderful time taking a long scenic drive in your marvelous vehicle, you just wasted that gasoline. Sounds like you were both the victor and the loser.

You get my point.


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[ZamboniMan]

The article notes, "Or perhaps Volt owners are more accustomed to 120-Volt recharging, and hence more likely to recharge optimistically for shorter periods of time." I know I do. If I can't get in a full charge, I'll still plug in for a few hours, which doesn't reset the charge stats, but definitely give me the go juice.

 

[llninja]

If you're the victor, who is the loser? Instead of having a wonderful time taking a long scenic drive in your marvelous vehicle, you just wasted that gasoline. Sounds like you were both the victor and the loser.

I am the loser, hitting the Dino juice on a daily basis with my 50 mile per day commute and gen 1 that cannot possibly hit 50 miles unless I really hypermile the heck out of the car, downhill, both ways, with a tailwind, and a semi in front for a nice draft.

 

[ZamboniMan]

You could install an aftermarket sail, llninja! LOL