After owning a GM volt (let's say for 5 years) I am assuming it would be time to replace the lithium ion batteries. AND HOW MUCH WILL THIS COST?
I for one will be buying a 4 year old Volt on Ebay, but it will be me taking advantage of your perception of the battery pack reliability. If everything else on the Volt is designed to last (cross my fingers) then the powertrain will last and last and last and no one realizes this yet because they're calibrated their expectations on a machine with thousands of moving parts just in the automatic transmission. We're talking two moving parts here - the left side rotor, and the right side rotor. As for the battery pack, I'd be happy to inherit it with 40000 electric miles - that corresponds to 500 cycles on this chart (because it's 100% DOD)Of course a smart Volt Owner at the end of 4 years would sell their Volt to an unsuspecting person on Ebay, who didn't do their homework... and let the bozo buyer pay for a new lithium battery pack.
Further, I can only assume and hope that GM is addressing battery life and any possible replacment affordability issues as they design the Volt. That's because I tend to keep my cars for a VERY VERY long time compared to the average American consumer. I usually purchase used vehicles because the overall value is better. But I have bought 3 new vehicles in my life. Those were/are, a 73 Corvette, a 79 Camaro, and a 04 Colorado. Of those I still own and drive 2 of them, the 73 Vette and the 04 Colorado. I did sell the Camaro after driving it for 16 years.#2. People who hate foreign oil suppliers.
The Electric Power Research Institute (http://my.epri.com/portal/server.pt?) did a recent analysis on the projected cost of Li ion batteries. Using this data and the DeJong learning curve gives the learning curve below. We note that the curve flattens out at volumes of 100,000 and greater, which corresponds to the Volt's third year production and beyond volumes. The Volt (16KWHr) battery cost for the third year and beyond is projected to level out at about $5000.After owning a GM volt (let's say for 5 years) I am assuming it would be time to replace the lithium ion batteries. AND HOW MUCH WILL THIS COST?
About 20 years ago, I read an article in one of the news magazines (probably in US NEWS & WORLD REPORT) that stated one of the reasons cars made in the US cost more than foreign made vehicles was the labor cost. The article shocked me when it suggested that employees doing basically unskilled tasks like installing bumpers all day long were getting $56 per hour (factored in the perks) and the job required no higher than a GED. The article also stated Union employees were granted a slew of breaks during their shift. The article said cars could in essence be "log jammed" on the assembly line while the employee was off on a break reading magazines. God only knows what these Union people make in the year 2008, because the article I read was about two decades ago.I am in shock at the cost of autos today. Or is chevy going to be realistic with a great product at an affordable price?
I find it amazing that Europe has been producing fuel efficient cars for years. We just woke up... and are now playing catch up. We are bombarded on TV with ads of autos getting 30mpg....what a joke! No wonder the auto industry is in the toilet! Wake up guys!
My original question was posted 7-21. In looking at this link you provided, it suggests the info was put out by GM or Lyle TODAY, 8-5. So what is the hollering about? My question was NOT mis-information. Did I or anybody else state what the projection was for battery life in the Volt? No, I asked if batteries were going to last more than 4 to 5 years.Doesn't anybody read what Lyle posts in his blog? Info straight from GM? This car is having a tough enough time making it to market without us starting mis information about it. Here read up: http://gm-volt.com/2008/08/05/gm-says-chevy-volt-battery-will-have-a-10-year-150000-mile-warranty/
In fact, now they are saying that they want to provide a ten year 150,000 mile warranty on the battery pack.
What they are building a car for, and what they plan to back it up with are two different things. Many auto makers build cars to last 15 years and 200,000 miles, but they only back it up with a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty.But one of the important challenges remaining is proving ten-year, 150,000-mile life when we're developing the battery over a three-year timeframe.
Jeez, I'm sorry. My comment was too quick and perhaps a tad strong, but I was not really directing it at you as I recognized that you are new and may not be up to speed. My disappointment was with other older members going along and not pointing out that ten years has always been the goal. I thought for sure someone would let you know that after a few posts. You're new, so you don't realize that Lyle's post today is purely coincidental (I was stunned that when I went to the home page to search for past postings on the blog about the battery pack life, I found that today's post was exactly this topic!) and that the main point of it is that GM now feels confident in the battery packs enough that they are planning to warranty them for 10 years or 150,000 miles. The stated goal for months has been 10 years of battery life.My original question was posted 7-21. In looking at this link you provided, it suggests the info was put out by GM or Lyle TODAY, 8-5. So what is the hollering about?