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It's obvious that they used the concept to generate excitement and then designed this generic upside down bathtub to sell to mom and pop. They realized that it doesn't have to be exciting, just more exiting than the other "green" cars on the market. The days of gutsy design are long gone in this country. We started following the foreign countries in the 70's and never got out of it. Realize that if you like exciting cars this is not for you. It's zero to 60 sucks, it's design sucks. Maybe you could put a decent stereo in it and pop a semi hard woody for a few seconds, but you will need to snort some viagra off the dashboard to keep it up. If your looking for a fast and exciting this is not it, especially since your paying for fast and exciting. Let the people who are just looking for an expensive transport pod to snap this one up. Volt? They should have named it millivolt
 

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LOL, Great post Patriot, And I totally agree. Once again, another blunder by GM. I have always been a GM man, from my first car in high school (65 Chevelle SS) to the two in my collection now (68 Camaro RS/SS and 96 Impala SS) And I have resisted the temptation at the Mustang Saleen in hopes that GM will get off their butts and get the Camaro out. But this sudden change in design is an absolute train wreck compared to the one in the commercials. I wonder if they will rethink this when they find that the vast majority of the advanced orders for this car are being canceled.
 

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No it was a rediculous post. It made no sense. You know nothing about marketing because your theory would have destroyed that. Think about it. ;)
 

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I wonder if they will rethink this when they find that the vast majority of the advanced orders for this car are being canceled.
Oh yes...I'm sure GM is out to pacify the 1 percent that liked the concept. :D

And as far as the advanced orders, thats the price you pay when you dish out money before you know exactly what you're gonna get. Everyone knew a design change was coming. And everyone knows the meaning of "concept".
 

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Oh yes...I'm sure GM is out to pacify the 1 percent that liked the concept. :D

And as far as the advanced orders, thats the price you pay when you dish out money before you know exactly what you're gonna get. Everyone knew a design change was coming.

Read the posts here my friend, it's a LOT more than 1%. And as for dishing out money before the design changes are finished, that's why people cancel. Oh and by the way, check Yahoo news, the dislike for this car has hit a national level.

And since US auto sales are for the most part, still in the toilet, maybe some pacifying is just what the should do.
 

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Read the posts here my friend, it's a LOT more than 1%. And as for dishing out money before the design changes are finished, that's why people cancel. Oh and by the way, check Yahoo news, the dislike for this car has hit a national level.

And since US auto sales are for the most part, still in the toilet, maybe some pacifying is just what the should do.
A bunch of loudmouth whiners throw off the perception. The fact that not all of the 41,794 people on the gm-volt.com "I want one" list have posted here in the last 24 hours to say they still want one now that the production model has been officially revealed does NOT mean that lots of them don't still want one. There certainly haven't been 418 different people posting "I wanted one but changed my mind" which is what it would take to have a vocal minority of 1% saying they don't want the production car.

On top of that, I'm sure there is a large segment of the car-buying public who might not have considered a car as radical-looking as the concept (or indeed, as inconveniently packaged with respect to interior space, outward visibility and cargo capacity) who will consider the production Volt when it becomes available.
 

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Well, you got the "a bunch" part right.

and last I checked, "as inconveniently packaged with respect to interior space, outward visibility and cargo capacity" that wasn't what people were complaining about.

And if it was only a small percenatage I doubt it would have reached the news media already.
 

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LOL. Well all the cry babies out there who dislike the production Volt dont have to buy one. Plain and simple. ;)
 

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Well, you got the "a bunch" part right.

and last I checked, "as inconveniently packaged with respect to interior space, outward visibility and cargo capacity" that wasn't what people were complaining about.

And if it was only a small percenatage I doubt it would have reached the news media already.
People weren't complaining about the packaging of the concept car because they haven't been able to put their fat asses in one. Most people have limited spatial perception skills, they haven't yet figured out what size the concept car is because they've only seen it on a stage in pictures and haven't compared it to the people standing near it. When it comes to selling the car, sitting in it and getting a feel for the size and proportions goes a long way.
 

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Cry babies... <- What someone says when they don't have anything better to contribute.

You like it, I don't. I've said my piece. You're obviously another tool that thinks he "gets it" based on the fact the "he" likes it. Some people like it, some people think it's ugly. So, because we don't like it we're cry babies? Grow up!
 

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Cry babies... <- What someone says when they don't have anything better to contribute.

You like it, I don't. I've said my piece. You're obviously another tool that thinks he "gets it" based on the fact the "he" likes it. Some people like it, some people think it's ugly. So, because we don't like it we're cry babies? Grow up!
Nope, you're just another tool that thinks he gets it because he doesn't like it.
 

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Sad, is that the best you can come up with? I am simply stating my opinion. You on the other hand weren't creative enough to even come up with anything more than adding to a comment already posted.
 

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One has to wonder, just how many GM employees are trolling these posts.....
I would assume that there are a number of GM employees reading this forum, but I don't know of any regular posters who are employees of the General. I, for one, have never even bought a new GM vehicle (though I had a '71 Skylark Custom Convertible for many years that I enjoyed, drum brakes and all.)

The new CTS Wagon and the Volt are vehicles that have put GM products on my radar... I would also have considered a Pontiac G8 Sportwagon, but that moron Lutz decided we'd be better served by a modern Pontiac version of the El Camino instead.

I don't know what's wrong with your wife's WRX... is it an automatic perhaps? We're on our 2nd WRX, after putting 170k trouble-free miles on the '02 my partner decided to buy an '06 WRX Limited to get it mostly paid for before he started med school, so he wouldn't finish med school with a 10-year old car with a half million miles as his daily transportation. My '05 Legacy GT Wagon has been nearly flawless as well.
 

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TESTOSTERONE CRY BABIES, get a life!

When it comes to selling the car, sitting in it and getting a feel for the size and proportions goes a long way.
Bravo again GearheadGeek!

In 1970, I LUSTED for a Corvette. Heck, I DREAMED of owning a Corvette. I couldn't afford one, I was just about to turn 18. Then, GM came out with an "edgy" looking car I could afford that LOOKED like a Corvette. Remember the 1970 Opal GT? Well, that "EDGY" car failed to sell like hotcakes. IT WAS A MISERABLE FAILURE. Sure, it was inexpensive to drive, many thousands less than the "real" Corvette. But GM shot themselves in the foot by designing and marketing an edgy looking car for the very insignificant TESTOSTERONE market (guys that have bigger balls than brains, guys who max out their credit cards and who have as much debt as a third-world nation and brainless guys who buy something "because it looks good."

The newer Volt makes a hell of a lot more sense than the "concept" Volt. I like the fact the "new" Volt offers better headroom, has fewer blind spots, can haul 10 bags of groceries in the trunk and that many of us who are 30 pounds OVERWEIGHT (about 75% of the American public who buys cars) can slip into and out of the new Volt without having to call 9-1-1.

The Opal GT, only someone in the 28 and younger crowd could get into the darned thing (if they didn't weigh over 199 pounds.) IT FAILED and GM CAN NOT AFFORD TO DESIGN AND MARKET AN EDGY VOLT THAT PRIMARILY APPEALS TO MALES, 18 TO 35 YEARS OLD. This thing HAS to sell to a very large segment of the population, or GM will shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.

The Opal GT Failed...
The Delorean Failed...
Corvettes are sitting in GM showrooms for 12 months and more...

The MASSES are not buying trendy, funky, edgy cars in this economy. Heck, If GM called me today, I swap them even for my 160 MPH airplane in a heartbeat for the "new" GM Volt.

ATTN: CRY BABIES... get a life, or go buy a darned Boxer and stick an electric motor in it.
 
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