Click Bait, there is nothing but one writers opinion
DonC,Musk has already said that the first Model 3 would be first released in higher trim levels, by which he meant higher priced levels. More generally, taking costs out of a car is not easy. The average Model S costs Tesla about $75K, so bringing that down to $45K would be an achievement. Plus you need a margin.
It's actually $68k for a base Model S, now (newly ordered). This also includes all the hardware for L5 Autonomous driving and free Supercharging for the life of the car. The Model S is a much larger, full-sized car with most of its body made from aluminum and the battery pack is rather large (75-100kWh.) The Model S will be mid-sized, have a mixture of aluminum and steel components, and probably have a base battery pack of ~50kWh. Other than that, you shouldn't expect to have much decontenting done to it, compared to the Model S. The base Model S might start to have more options standard, as we get closer to the Model 3 ordering. This would help to distance the base Model S a bit from a fully optioned Model 3.There's quite a bit of spread between the lowest priced Model S and the promised price of the Model 3, I think $35K to $56K. That leads me to believe the base Model 3 will significantly decontented. My guess, is the base model will have a battery similar in size to the mid level Model 3 but with capacity reduced by software to 120-150 miles. I also think Supercharger access will be an option as will many of the software bases capabilities such as the autonomous driving stuff and power output. My guess is the average Model 3 will sell in the mid $40's, which still is nkot bad.
What are you talking about? 120-150 miles? Tesla has already stated it will have at least 215 miles and it will probably be better than that so I don't know how you got 120-150. The difference between the Model S and 3 will be that it is smaller, uses steel in places that used aluminum, won't have pop out door handles and as with everything the more you make of them the cheaper they become. Just the having a simpler car and using their experience from the S/X they can streamline the automation process and crank these cars out fast and cheaper. Also don't forget the Battery plant will drop the price of the battery and since the battery is a large part of the cost it would be easy to see how the prices will come down.There's quite a bit of spread between the lowest priced Model S and the promised price of the Model 3, I think $35K to $56K. That leads me to believe the base Model 3 will significantly decontented. My guess, is the base model will have a battery similar in size to the mid level Model 3 but with capacity reduced by software to 120-150 miles. I also think Supercharger access will be an option as will many of the software bases capabilities such as the autonomous driving stuff and power output. My guess is the average Model 3 will sell in the mid $40's, which still is nkot bad.
Well, for the record, they haven't "made money" yet. In how many years?...These same people think Chevy which will only be cranking about 20 to 30 thousand of these out a year can make money yet Tesla who only sells Electric cars and has more experience with electric cars and batteries can't.
And whatever Tesla Motors Marketing says is written in stone?...
Then again Tesla has said the Model 3 will be a $35,000 car. ...
All of the US Model 3 reservation holders wouldn't be able to buy a Bolt with Federal Tax Credit. Last known number was over 360k reservations.All of you who are planning to buy a Model 3 are forgetting that Tesla Motors has used up over half of the 200,000 vehicle allocation for the Federal tax rebate. And now they are offering a newer version of the Model S with the 60/75 kWh battery, so there will be many more sales between now and 2018, since now there are several levels of the Model S and the Model X beong offered. I am sorry to post that all of you may not get tha $7,500 rebate when you do buy your Model 3, and in conclusion will cost over $35,000 for the basic model.
So if you do want a long range American designed and produced BEV, the 2017 Chevy Bolt is the only alternative under $35,000. Or wait until some Model 3 owners trade up or return their leases by 2021. Then you can get your Model 3 at the "originally announced price" or less.
But, Tesla hasn't made money yet. Any money. We, the taxpayers, are still bailing out Tesla. Let's see what happens when and if Tesla can stop sucking off of taxpayers.Since I really want to replace my Prius in 2019, I'm willing to wait. I'd rather give my money to Tesla than GM, since Tesla is a company that's fully dedicated to long-distance BEV, sustainable energy and automated manufacturing.
For Tesla Motors it's always hinged on Model 3/Y.But, Tesla hasn't made money yet. Any money. We, the taxpayers, are still bailing out Tesla. Let's see what happens when and if Tesla can stop sucking off of taxpayers.
Depends. Those Tesla glass tiles will probably be warrantied against stone damage.And whatever Tesla Motors Marketing says is written in stone?
It is comedy that the Teslarati has been ragging on GM for not having 2017 Bolts in all 50 states by October 2016.
They seem to forget the pricing and actual delivery dates on EVERY new model Tesla Motors car. Glass house and stones.
Coming to donc's defense, every Tesla product release so far required the early first folks in line to buy fully optioned cars. The Tesla model 3 will probably be no different. It's one thing to be able to buy a base model at product introduction and another to be forced to take all the options because of your placement in line.DonC,
Did you write that article? It does seem like a lot of clickbait based on nothing more than opinion. Even the OP's headline of "The average Model 3 to be priced way higher than originally targeted" makes it seem like it is the truth and not just an opinion.
Also DonC please show us where Elon said the first Model 3 were going to be released were going to be the higher trim levels? Or is this just another BS line coming from you? Because everywhere I could find said it was going to be released in this order:
California first and those that already own a Tesla. Remember Tesla doesn't even know what you are going to order until they give you your slot and chance to customize it. As they release more to the remaining States existing Tesla customers will get priority then it will be first come first served.
The fact that the Tesla model 3 has so many options that the Bolt doesn't is why the price can be higher if you choose it to be.
If the Model 3 owner chooses to go with the exact same base model as the Bolt they will end up paying less for it. They will also have the ability to quick charge without paying extra and the base Model 3 comes with 8 cameras and sonars making it able to see and handle more safety related situations than the Bolt can and all for a lower price.
Now if you want to add an autopilot that will cost extra. If you want to add 4 wheel drive that will cost extra. If you want a panoramic roof that will cost extra. If you want to add autonomous driving that will cost extra. If you want to add any of those to the Bolt that will cost you nothing as those are not option available.
Also and here is the best part. Aren't the vast majority of the current Bolt order optioned with the Premier package and quick charger? This means the average cost for the Bolt is not $37,495 but closer to $43,000. Funny I don't see any headlines proclaiming the Bolt is priced way higher than originally targeted?