[bro1999]

http://www.businessinsider.com/2017-chevy-bolt-review-photos-2017-8

I have a feeling increasing numbers of Model 3 reservations holders will crain their neck and look at the Bolt the longer they end up waiting for their 3.

 

[DonC]

I think a better competitor will be the Buick CUV. The Bolt EV may go further, cost less, and be more practical than the Model 3, but to be a competitor for the more expensive Model 3 it will need more pizzazz.

 

[Steverino]

If ALL you care about is an EV that can go 200+ miles, then yes. But people are looking at more than EV miles.

If I want a sedan, the Bolt is not a Model 3 competitor for example. Or if I simply MUST have power seats or a moon roof. Or any number of other things. To me the two cars are apples to oranges.

 

[llninja]

Oh great, Bro's poking the bear again at the Tesla fanboys. I've got my popcorn ready....

 

[jsmay311]

Oh great, Bro's poking the bear again at the Tesla fanboys. I've got my popcorn ready....

At least he's doing it in the friendly confines of GM-Volt rather than a Tesla forum.

But yeah... there may be some prospective Model 3 buyers that look to the Bolt as an alternative. But like DonC and Steverino pointed out, there are lots of differences between the two vehicles once you get past fuel type and range, and there's probably not a very big overlap in interested buyers.

 

[obermd]

I don't think there's that big an overlap in buyers. One's a sedan and one's a small SUV/CUV. Different markets are being targeted.

 

[Jim Fallston Md.]

63,000 People Have Canceled Their Tesla Model 3 Orders

Found this online today.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/63000-people-cancel-tesla-3-reservation-97266.html

The link in the quoted post below didn't work when I first posted this.

 

[rmay635703]

A lot are buying on name and image only, only another like cred car would be OK to them.

We will see how that plays out over time.

As for Bolt sales I think the more attention to EVs , the more EV sales there will be across the spectrum.

The M3 validates the Bolt and Leaf, just as the Bolt validates the Volt.

All ships will rise.


Given the type of person a M3 appeals to, a very long wait could result in some strange standoffish smugness between those with M3, those who want M3 and those who don't care.

I've already witnessed flame matches of a certain type of fanboy who joins a model specific Facebook page or Forum
And starts mentioning solutions to everyone's problem there being a M3

Many times it's off topic and rises to them being banned, noticed this tendency on a Corvette forum the Volt Facebook page and even on Prius related places.

I'm still uncertain what a Tesla has to do with how to clean the intake on a direct injection car
Or how a Tesla would solve a broke guys $1500 used car related repairs,
but apparently there is a subset of people everywhere sticking it to someone spouting their battle cry Tesla can on basically every remotely car related forum.

But it's appreciated just as much as telling someone they dropped their pencil.

It's almost like car forums have been made into gamer rating discussion forums
Or worse YouTube reaction videos.

 

[rmay635703]

63,000 People Have Canceled Their Tesla Model 3 Orders

Found this on MSN today.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...dpp?li=BBnb7Kz

How many will refuse delivery when their reservation number comes up?
I know I did.

 

[llninja]

At least he's doing it in the friendly confines of GM-Volt rather than a Tesla forum.

Have you seen Bro and JupiterMoon go at each other lately? Certainly not friendly.....

Given the type of person a M3 appeals to, a very long wait could result in some strange standoffish smugness between those with M3, those who want M3 and those who don't care.

Let's not forget the standoffish smugness between S and X owners who helped fund the TM3.

 

[Taser54]

Have you seen Bro and JupiterMoon go at each other lately? QUOTE]

Jupiter is a bit out there.

 

[Sean Nelson]

If ALL you car about is an EV that can go 200+ miles, then yes. But people are looking at more than EV miles. If I want a sedan, the Bolt is not a Model 3 competitor for example. Or if I simply MUST have power seats or a moon roof. Or any number of other things. To me the two cars are apples to oranges.

The issue right now is that if range is the number one criterion (and it really does rank right up there for most EV buyers) and you don't want to splurge on the older Teslas, then you only have two choices - buy Bolt today or wait for a Model 3. That's going to make them competitors for a lot more people than would be the case if there were a lot of other electric sedans and hatchbacks.

The Leaf will add some more choice, hopefully soon.

 

[11715]

How many will refuse delivery when their reservation number comes up?
I know I did.

You refused delivery?

 

[rmay635703]

You refused delivery?

Long ago on a leaf,
I'm glad I said no when my number eventually came up.

A reservation in no way holds you to buy and take delivery.

 

[trm2]

I just test drove a Bolt today. Sure I had to travel to a different state to do so, but I like the Bolt. A lot. I hold a pre-reveal reservation for a Model 3 and can expect delivery (for what that is worth) December to February. I have a decision to make. The biggest drawback for the Bolt is the seats, they are narrow.

 

[Off Oil]

Of course the Bolt and Model 3 are competitors:
1. Both are fully electric.
2. Both are focused on the median bracket of ~35k starting price.
3. There are no other vehicles in the market which currently meet this criteria.

Yes there are differences in the hatchback/sedan form & options, and these differences will drive the customer choice between the two. If there were a lot more competitors in marketplace, then perhaps they wouldn't be considered direct model competitors, however the market is young and we are not there yet.

 

[viking79]

63,000 People Have Canceled Their Tesla Model 3 Orders

Found this online today.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/63000-people-cancel-tesla-3-reservation-97266.html

The link in the quoted post below didn't work when I first posted this.

This title is blatantly misleading, 63k have cancelled, but 455,000 have not, and after the reveal Tesla was netting 1,800 (monthly sales for Bolt EV) a day reservations for at least several days. The car was well received.

 

[Qinsp]

Jupiter is a bit out there.

And it's a gas giant IIRC. That's something that has a whole lot of hot air but not nearly enough to be a star.

 

[Jim Fallston Md.]

This title is blatantly misleading, 63k have cancelled, but 455,000 have not, and after the reveal Tesla was netting 1,800 (monthly sales for Bolt EV) a day reservations for at least several days. The car was well received.

I don't write um I just read um.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

This title is blatantly misleading, 63k have cancelled, but 455,000 have not, and after the reveal Tesla was netting 1,800 (monthly sales for Bolt EV) a day reservations for at least several days. The car was well received.

Never judge an article on the headline. Headline writers are a very special kind of journalist.