I did not really understand why they said if you travel 40 plus miles then you may want the gas only one. The plug-in hybrid appeared to be 33 miles. I'm not sure the math works out. Rough example of you working 66 miles away so 1/2 the time you are on gas.
Nice case in point. Excellent real-world feedback!<snip>
My wife drives it nearly every day shuttling the kiddies to their various activities.
Probably about 40-50 miles per day.
The Pacifica is rated right around 33ish miles/charge, but my wife's been averaging between
38 and 40 miles per charge. And she DOES NOT nurse the electron pedal!
It's worse than that:I did not really understand why they said if you travel 40 plus miles then you may want the gas only one. The plug-in hybrid appeared to be 33 miles. I'm not sure the math works out. Rough example of you working 66 miles away so 1/2 the time you are on gas.
I would still think your cost of (33 miles of electricity) + (33 miles of gas) would be < (66 miles of gas). I think this type of thing is true for the Gen I Volt and many do that (drive on both elect and gas each day but still save).
That's right. There are a few significant omissions. The PacHy doesn't offer 8-passenger seating, Stow-n-Go second row, nor is it rated to tow (although I'm sure it can tow something.)saghost said:The only argument for the ICE version is if you want some features offered only on the ICE version...
There is ZERO argument for the ICE version! All of the features of the ICE version are available in the Hybrid Limited, and most of them are available in the Hybrid Touring. The Hybrids, once you figure in the Fed/CA/Utilities rebates and credits (yours may vary depending on location of course), don't cost a whole lot more than the ICE versions given similar equipment levels. But the fuel savings are vast! The Hybrid returns roughly 50% better MPG combined than the ICEs (~22MPG vs ~33MPG) and if your driving is generally at the national average of just under 40 miles/day, you can end up burning so little gas that it becomes stale in your tank! Heck, that's why I burned nearly all of the gas my Volt has used the past 2.5 yearsIt's worse than that:
According to the EPA data, the Hybrid gets 32 mpg on gas only in combined testing - after using any electric range. Both the ICE only versions get 22 miles per gallon.
If you never plug it in and drive on a cross country trip, the Hybrid version should only use 2/3 of the fuel the ICE version does (though that's actually a poor example because it'd presumably mostly be highway driving where I expect the gap is closer.)
There's never a crossover point where gas only makes more sense, because the Hybrid always uses less gas even if there's no more wall power involved. All the reviews I've read said the driving qualities were better, too.
The only argument for the ICE version is if you want some features offered only on the ICE version...