[FI Spyder]

Time to return the government, of the corporations, for the corporations, by the corporations back to, of the people, for the people, by the people like the Gettysburg address stated.

 

[css28]

It's a little complicated. In order to work around the existing rules, Tesla's subsidiary will have to first title the car in Ohio, then transfer it to the Michigan customer. This wouldn't have been workable before Tesla burned through their federal tax credit (limited to newly titled cars).

 

[obermd]

It's a little complicated. In order to work around the existing rules, Tesla's subsidiary will have to first title the car in Ohio, then transfer it to the Michigan customer. This wouldn't have been workable before Tesla burned through their federal tax credit (limited to newly titled cars).

And this is NOT the same as selling direct to customers in Michigan. What Tesla actually got was the right to service their cars in Michigan. Michigan residents must still purchase and title the car outside the state first.

Personally, Tesla needs to go via the Federal Courts on the grounds that the US Constitution explicitly prohibits States from imposing any sort of tariff on interstate sales. The requirement that sales be through an intermediary is a tariff in that it adds to the cost of the vehicle and actually prevents the manufacturer from selling to the consumer.

 

[scottf200]

The car dealers lost one. Tesla’s settlement with Michigan will allow the company to sell and service its cars in the state without being forced to go through a car dealer.

About time. Rivian next?

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-michigan-settlement-point-of-no-return/

Rivian going to get arounds this someway with their Ford connection perhaps.

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Tesla related Michigan.GOV doc:
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...n_for_Entry_of_Dismissal_1-22-20_679161_7.pdf

Neither M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)(q) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits a subsidiary that is wholly owned by Tesla (“Tesla Service Subsidiary”) from owning or operating one or more service and repair facilities in the state of Michigan, so long as Tesla itself does not directly own the facilities;


Under Michigan law (including M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)), Tesla’s status as a manufacturer of motor vehicles does not prevent employees of Tesla from performing warranty, recall, service, or repair work in Michigan so long as the work is not performed at a motor vehicle repair facility that is directly owned by Tesla itself, and that those employees are properly certified as specialty or master mechanics, as appropriate, under M.C.L. § 257.1311. In particular, neither M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)(p) nor § 445.1574(1)(q) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits employees of Tesla from performing warranty, recall, service, or repair work at a facility owned or operated by the Tesla Service Subsidiary on vehicles owned or leased by Tesla customers;


No provision in M.C.L. § 445.1574(1) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits Tesla from delivering vehicles to Michigan residents in Michigan (whether directly, through a subsidiary, using an independent carrier, or otherwise), including assisting them with vehicle trade-ins, so long as legal title for any vehicles sold by Tesla transfers outside the state of Michigan, consistent with M.C.L. §§ 440.2106(1) and 440.2401;


Under Michigan law, employees of Tesla or the Tesla Service Subsidiary are permitted to inspect, prepare, and, if necessary, repair such vehicles in the state of Michigan before they are delivered to the Michigan resident; and


Neither M.C.L. § 445.1574(1)(h) nor § 445.1574(1)(i) nor any other provision of Michigan law prohibits Tesla from operating one or more galleries in the State to educate customers and facilitate transactions out-of-state so long as Tesla does not transfer legal title to the vehicles within the State consistent with M.C.L. §§ 440.2106(1) and 440.2401. Permissible activities at such a gallery include (but are not limited to) conducting demonstration drives; discussing prices, service, financing, leasing, and trade-ins with potential customers; helping potential customers configure a vehicle; facilitating ordering and purchase of a vehicle for which legal title transfers out-of-state; and facilitating customer transaction paperwork for a sale for which legal title transfers out-of-state;

 

[css28]

And this is NOT the same as selling direct to customers in Michigan. What Tesla actually got was the right to service their cars in Michigan. Michigan residents must still purchase and title the car outside the state first.

I don't think that's strictly true. How would I title the car without an Ohio address? The "subsidiary" somehow accomplishes this in the background.