[Loboc]

Business insider article is saying RWD Model S will be discontinued.

http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-discontinue-model-s-75-rwd-2017-9

 

[obermd]

So now we have a date - this Sunday.

 

[bro1999]

Remember when Tesla announced a $49.9k Model S back in 2011?

 

[saghost]

Not much of a surprise. As the article notes, we've heard a few times that it was coming. Right now, that base car and the performance car are the only ones that still use the original big drive motor, which has had more replacements and is likely more expensive. At some point I'm expecting the performance car to go to three motors instead...

 

[bro1999]

Not much of a surprise. As the article notes, we've heard a few times that it was coming. Right now, that base car and the performance car are the only ones that still use the original big drive motor, which has had more replacements and is likely more expensive. At some point I'm expecting the performance car to go to three motors instead...

Might as well go for 4 motors...one for each wheel.

 

[mike100]

It seems they also put in the larger power electronics from the 90d/100d cars into the 75D allowing for a lot quicker 0-60 acceleration. No way they want to have the better model 3 going as fast as the low end model S for cheaper.

 

[saghost]

It seems they also put in the larger power electronics from the 90d/100d cars into the 75D allowing for a lot quicker 0-60 acceleration. No way they want to have the better model 3 going as fast as the low end model S for cheaper.

??? To the best of my knowledge, all small motors have identical electronics, from the 75D to the P100DL. There have been some differences in firmware, but I'm pretty sure the mysterious hardware change in July they mentioned for the faster 0-60 time isn't taking the power inverter from the 90D/100D to the 75D. Do you have a source that says differently?

 

[11715]

Remember when Tesla announced a $49.9k Model S back in 2011?

No I don't.

 

[flyingsherpa]

No I don't.

I do. They actually sold a small amount of S40 barebones models for $50k after tax credit. So technically they hit their goal, just that most orders were for longer range, better appointed versions, which were of course much more expensive. Can't really fault that... that's what customers were ordering. I expect a similar situation with the Model 3, most people will spring for options they want so the mythical $35k version will be rare (but technically available, at some point).

 

[Upper5Percent]

Remember when Tesla announced a $49.9k Model S back in 2011?

And they didn't have SuperCharger Access

 

[jsmay311]

Remember when Tesla announced a $49.9k Model S back in 2011?

Back in early 2012 I made a big spreadsheet comparing the Volt to the Model S40 to help aid my purchase decision. I actually thought about it for a while. But the lack of a charging network (at the time) made the S40 not a viable option.

Even later when Tesla started building out the Supercharger network, the (very few) S40 owners couldn't even use it. I'm glad I didn't end up in that situation.

 

[BAZINGA]

Wasn't the S40 a software limited 60 and could be unlocked with SuperCharging for a FEE and that still applies to today's? Not that it a cost effective way to get more range and SC access, but doable.

 

[saghost]

Wasn't the S40 a software limited 60 and could be unlocked with SuperCharging for a FEE and that still applies to today's? Not that it a cost effective way to get more range and SC access, but doable.

As I understand it, you would have to pay the 40 -> 60 upgrade fee, and then the separate 60 Supercharging upgrade fee, but yes, it was doable, and I don't think there are any hardware changes involved.

 

[BAZINGA]

As I understand it, you would have to pay the 40 -> 60 upgrade fee, and then the separate 60 Supercharging upgrade fee, but yes, it was doable, and I don't think there are any hardware changes involved.

It was all done OTA, all you needed was a CC. Not any different than the AP1/2 feature. Hardware built in to car and buyer can pay for it up front or later on if/when they choose too.

 

[Upper5Percent]

As I understand it, you would have to pay the 40 -> 60 upgrade fee, and then the separate 60 Supercharging upgrade fee, but yes, it was doable, and I don't think there are any hardware changes involved.

It was all done OTA, all you needed was a CC. Not any different than the AP1/2 feature. Hardware built in to car and buyer can pay for it up front or later on if/when they choose too.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/current-owners-of-40-kwh-configuration.72539/

Make sure you are sitting down when you read the prices for the upgrade and Supercharger Option...

For just the battery upgrade...
"In regards to your inbound emailing about upgrading your 40 kWh battery to a 60kWh – this is possible for your vehicle. The price associated with this upgrade is $11,715.00, after tax. The vehicle will need to visit a service facility to process this upgrade, and update the badging on the vehicle."(These are Tesla's words)

you still need to pay an additional $2500 to unlock SuperCharging

 

[11715]

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/current-owners-of-40-kwh-configuration.72539/

Make sure you are sitting down when you read the prices for the upgrade and Supercharger Option...

For just the battery upgrade...
"In regards to your inbound emailing about upgrading your 40 kWh battery to a 60kWh – this is possible for your vehicle. The price associated with this upgrade is $11,715.00, after tax. The vehicle will need to visit a service facility to process this upgrade, and update the badging on the vehicle."(These are Tesla's words)

you still need to pay an additional $2500 to unlock SuperCharging

The owners knew what they were getting when they bought. Just because it seemed expensive to you it wasn't for people who made the upgrade. I would have bought the 40kw model but the range wasn't enough. I bought a Volt instead that stickered for $45K.

 

[Upper5Percent]

The owners knew what they were getting when they bought. Just because it seemed expensive to you it wasn't for people who made the upgrade. I would have bought the 40kw model but the range wasn't enough. I bought a Volt instead that stickered for $45K.

I'm not the one of the posters whining on that Tesla thread...

 

[11715]

I'm not the one of the posters whining on that Tesla thread...

Everyone wants something for nothing. They knew the deal when they bought. My Volt didn't qualify for a CA rebate but I bought it anyway. You don't see me posting/complaining about it.

 

[Qinsp]

Everyone wants something for nothing. They knew the deal when they bought. My Volt didn't qualify for a CA rebate but I bought it anyway. You don't see me posting/complaining about it.

GM has nothing to do with Sacramento. Just so you know. Sacramento will soon be the ZEV City of the Future, but they stopped the buildout of both state-funded chargers, and VW-funded chargers. And they killed the rebate indefinitely.

This might surprise you, but many GM/Ford/Dodge spares go down in price over time, and you can second-source them and don't have to pay MSRP unless you want to.

$14000 for Supercharging assuming .20c a kWh is about 250,000 miles worth, give or take. A bargain perhaps if you drive it 500,000 miles, otherwise not such a great value. We call that price gouging no matter who holds the stock shares.

 

[wws]

The Tesla Model S 40s that they take in on trade magically become 60s w/Supercharging when they get resold as CPO cars. So over the long term, Tesla has done ok on them.