[El Dobro]

Tesla S To Lose Subsidies In Germany

Looks like the 3 will still get them as long as the prices stay down.
https://electrek.co/2017/12/01/tesla-loses-ev-subsidy-germany-accused-gaming-system/

 

[Mister Dave]

TESLA-SKANDAL

Seems that behind the scenes the Deutschlanders know what side their bread is buttered on. It doesn't make any sense for Tesla to get pissy about it.

 

[Steverino]

Tesla selling cars without some features at a lower price is a skandal, but VW emissions cheat is not.

The system is rigged by politicians who listen to "the people" (in other words corporations). And the sun rises in the east.

 

[samotlietuvis]

It is unfortunate... The i3 and i8 junk are getting subsidies in USA just fine.

 

[viking79]

There is a bit more to this, Auto Bild was investigating as there were complaints that Tesla offered the stripped model, but if you ordered it you wouldn't get it. They would just cancel the order.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Quick, catch them before they're all gone!

 

[Steverino]

There is a bit more to this, Auto Bild was investigating as there were complaints that Tesla offered the stripped model, but if you ordered it you wouldn't get it. They would just cancel the order.

If that was the case, they are getting what they deserve.

 

[Upper5Percent]

It is unfortunate... The i3 and i8 junk are getting subsidies in USA just fine.

Not from the Federal Government after Dec 31st 2017...

 

[Upper5Percent]

Tesla denies that customers have to pay more than €60K for a base level Model S in Germany.

"This is a completely false accusation. Anyone in Germany can order a Tesla Model S base version without comfort package, and we have delivered such cars to customers," says the company in an e-mailed statement.

Tesla was removed by the German Federal Office for Economic Affairs and Export Controls from the list of eligible cars that qualify for subsidies.

Tesla plans to investigate the issue and take appropriate action....Stay tuned...

 

[Mister Dave]

Picked up from PressePortal through Google Übersetzer:

How To Cars reveals: suspected subsidy fraud at Tesla
30.11.2017 - 13:00

Hamburg (ots) - charge of consumer deception and unfair competition / Federal Office of Economics and Export Control (BAFA) examines the case

The US automaker Tesla is suspected of having illegally stolen government subsidies in Germany. This reports How To Cars in the current issue 48/2017 (EVT: 1.12.2017). Background: With a new registration of a purely electrically operated vehicle motorists can apply for an environmental bonus of 4,000 euros. Half of the amount is paid by the car manufacturers and the Federal Office of Economics and Export Control (BAFA). So that customers receive the environmental bonus, the price of the basic vehicle model must be less than 60,000 euros net - then they get the state subsidy even with higher-priced versions of the same car model. This is the case with the Model S 75D from Tesla - but then missing important extras such as rear view camera, lane departure warning and parking sensors. These can be bought as a comfort package for 13,101 euros gross - allegedly optional. But How To Cars research revealed: The model S 75D is not available without these extras.

To check that, an How To Cars test buyer anonymously ordered the basic model without comfort package online. A Tesla customer service representative then calls him and tells him that the Model S 75D is not available without extras. The basic model is all about "taking the environmental bonus". The editors also report on customers who have experienced similar things. Either Tesla canceled the orders of the Model S 75D without extras or the car was delivered at the base price - but with comfort features.

How To Cars suspected: Tesla does not build the base model without extras. Thus, the allegations of unfair competition and consumer delusion in the room - and the pressure on Tesla increases. Through the AUTO BILD research BAFA has become aware of the case and announces to examine this extensively. In the end, the Model S could be removed from the list of eligible cars.

The full article "Wrong game of Elon Musk" read in the latest issue of the 48/2017 How To Cars, which will be released on 1 December 2017.

 

[jbakerjonathan]

@ Mister Dave From what the article reveals, Tesla was probably trying to game the system. It will be interesting to see whether or not Tesla does in fact build the Model S stripped of the "Comfort Package" for the German market. If there is no supporting documentation from Tesla, then they deserve what happens. Where are the ethics in this world???

 

[Mister Dave]

@ Mister Dave From what the article reveals, Tesla was probably trying to game the system. It will be interesting to see whether or not Tesla does in fact build the Model S stripped of the "Comfort Package" for the German market. If there is no supporting documentation from Tesla, then they deserve what happens. Where are the ethics in this world???

Lets be honest, the whole thing is silly. Anyone buying a Tesla in Deutschland doesn't need a gubmint subsidy. This is just another of Tesla's PR fights, and one that won't end well for them. Deutschlanders don't want model S strippers. They're arguing themselves into a corner.