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Today my wife and I checked in to a B&B in New Smyrna Beach, FL to celebrate our 41st anniversary. Went here last year too, but didn't have our 2017 Volt. The B&B had a newly installed Tesla charging station. Was I ever so surprised to find that Tesla paid for the installation of the station, which also included a 240 Volt charger compatible with our Volt! I am wondering if all Tesla destination charging stations have both options?? Anyone know?

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Today my wife and I checked in to a B&B in New Smyrna Beach, FL to celebrate our 41st anniversary. Went here last year too, but didn't have our 2017 Volt. The B&B had a newly installed Tesla charging station. Was I ever so surprised to find that Tesla paid for the installation of the station, which also included a 240 Volt charger compatible with our Volt! I am wondering if all Tesla destination charging stations have both options?? Anyone know?

Thank you Tesla!
Most do, I believe, but not all. Tesla happily pays for one J1772 for every two HPWCs they install if the owners of the site want it.
 

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Huh, thanks for pointing this out, N8XWB. This must be old news to EV enthusiasts, but for us new comers, this changes things when planning road trip. Wish I knew before my Thanksgiving roadtrip.
 

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Huh, thanks for pointing this out, N8XWB. This must be old news to EV enthusiasts, but for us new comers, this changes things when planning road trip. Wish I knew before my Thanksgiving roadtrip.
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Tesla's Destination Chargers help fill in some of the gaps when wandering away from their SC network.

We stayed at Hilton Garden Inn in Solomon MD while visiting my kids for thanks giving and I suggested they install a basic Level 2 EVSE to the desk clerk. She said they allowed a Tesla to use an outdoor outlet during their stay. I tried explaining all the different options and I could see it was just too complicated. It dawned on me that this is the crux of the matter, all the different choices.

We need a common plug like the nozzle at a gas pump.
 

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Tesla's Destination Chargers help fill in some of the gaps when wandering away from their SC network. I stayed at Hilton Garden Inn in Solomon Island while visiting my kids for thanks giving and I suggested they install a basic Level 2 EVSE to the desk clerk. She said they allowed a Tesla to use an outdoor outlet during their stay. I tried explaining all the different options and I could see it was just too complicated. It dawned on me that this is the crux of the matter, all the different choices.

We need a common plug like the nozzle at a gas pump. We can't build out the charging infrastructure based on multiple plugs and charging rates.
The only one that can handle everything - one or three phases AC and DCFC - in a single plug is the European Tesla standard - Mennekes/Type 2.
 

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There are eight Tesla superchargers at Woodman's grocery in North Aurora IL. If there is a J1772 there, would it be an extra hose on one of the chargers? I haven't really examined them closely because I was so steamed to see so many Tesla chargers and nothing for me. Have only seen one Tesla charging there, one time. Most of the time all are empty. No one at the store knows anything about this, so there's no one to ask.

Most do, I believe, but not all. Tesla happily pays for one J1772 for every two HPWCs they install if the owners of the site want it.
 

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There are eight Tesla superchargers at Woodman's grocery in North Aurora IL. If there is a J1772 there, would it be an extra hose on one of the chargers? I haven't really examined them closely because I was so steamed to see so many Tesla chargers and nothing for me. Have only seen one Tesla charging there, one time. Most of the time all are empty. No one at the store knows anything about this, so there's no one to ask.
J1772 units are stand alone and not connected to Tesla units.
 

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There are eight Tesla superchargers at Woodman's grocery in North Aurora IL. If there is a J1772 there, would it be an extra hose on one of the chargers? I haven't really examined them closely because I was so steamed to see so many Tesla chargers and nothing for me. Have only seen one Tesla charging there, one time. Most of the time all are empty. No one at the store knows anything about this, so there's no one to ask.
No, Superchargers are different, and never have J1772s unless they are colocated with other chargers.

The destination chargers (HPWCs) - AC charging located at a lot of hotels and restaurants around the country - often have J1772 in addition.
 

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There are eight Tesla superchargers at Woodman's grocery in North Aurora IL. If there is a J1772 there, would it be an extra hose on one of the chargers? I haven't really examined them closely because I was so steamed to see so many Tesla chargers and nothing for me...
"Superchargers" are Tesla specific high speed (typically 120 kW or more) DC chargers, and not your typical J1772. So not compatible with the Volt in any way.

"Destination chargers" are lower power (20 kW or less) AC charging stations at hotels, motels, and other points of interest. They are J1772 in electrical protocol, but have the Tesla specific plug on the end. One could actually hack off the plug and use a J1772 plug, and it would work fine with a Volt. In fact one outfit is in the process of making adapters available so J1772 cars can use Destination chargers.

Have only seen one Tesla charging there, one time. Most of the time all are empty. No one at the store knows anything about this, so there's no one to ask.
Partly because Superchargers charge the cars so fast, they don't need to hang around for very long. But, I suspect, also partly because the Supercharging network hasn't supported travel westward across Iowa - until the very recent installs in the QC (Davenport), Iowa City, and Des Moines. With these latter Superchargers in place, I think Aurora will start to see a lot more use.
 

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The charger station(s)I referred to in the original post are not superchargers. One has a Tesla plug and Tesla logo on the charger. The other has a J1772 plug and the charger has Envirospark on it. I am told that Tesla installed both at no charge! I might add that Chargepoint only indicates that this is a Tesla charge stations....what a great Thanksgiving gift!
 

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I meant to say Plugshare only indicates the Tesla charger.....Chargepoint doesn't advertise the charger at all. (BTW, is there a way to edit a post after it has been posted??)
 

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I meant to say Plugshare only indicates the Tesla charger.....Chargepoint doesn't advertise the charger at all. (BTW, is there a way to edit a post after it has been posted??)
Plugshare will usually have an accurate listing of the types of ports available. Sites with Tesla and J1772 would show up as both. Look at Plugshare and find the side you went to, and see what it shows.
 

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Good to know others are asking for this. I had a friend of mine with Tesla contact a bunch of locations in So. MD, but they just don't get it yet. It probably doesn't hurt to ask or email these hotels and perhaps they will get it at some point. Looks like a Holiday Inn Express near there just installed a couple J1772's, but it's on the other side of the bridge, and they haven't been activated yet.
 
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