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>56.000 Tesla S and X recall for failing parking brakes...Will help GM and the BOLT ?. Now o never go BOLT, GO !!!
 

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I love my Volt.

But I want Tesla to succeed as well.

Tesla's failures =/= GM's win. It just hurts EVs as a whole.
 

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Massive recall,,,cannot be good for sales...perhaps this will make a difference and BOLT sales will benefit.The self driving BOLT plus these bad news may get GM some breathing room in the EV market.
 

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Massive recall,,,cannot be good for sales...perhaps this will make a difference and BOLT sales will benefit.The self driving BOLT plus these bad news may get GM some breathing room in the EV market.
Personally I think the recall itself is less likely to sway anyone's opinion than the effect it may have - causing large queues of Tesla owners at the limited number of service centers.

But I agree with the other posters - it's extremely short-sighted to be rooting for Tesla to fail.
 

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Not rooting for TESLA failures...just we should agree that to pay $70-100.000 for a car that needs brake recall is sad story...my hopes is that Tesla repairs will give a more realistic prices in the future. Tesla 3 will not cost $40.000, but much less, and open competition will drop EV prices to realistic levels, so the general public will consider and EV car. At this moment seems GM Bolt has the upper hand, at least in price. Only time will tell.
 

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Massive recall,,,cannot be good for sales...perhaps this will make a difference and BOLT sales will benefit.The self driving BOLT plus these bad news may get GM some breathing room in the EV market.
Unlikely it will change much of anything. It hasn't hurt TSLA stock price at all, and the Tesla faithful will not care much.

If you're looking for closet skeletons, the Autopilot 2 class action might have slightly more teeth: Tesla owners have filed a class-action lawsuit alleging Autopilot 2 is 'demonstrably dangerous'

It just hurts EVs as a whole.
Not. Recalls of products are a fact of life. Auto recalls are not EV specific and this one won't be seen as such.

GM has been accused of killing people. There was a much bigger recall on top of it. They're doing just fine.
 

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The only car I know that hasn't had any recalls is called a concept car :)
 

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Not rooting for TESLA failures...just we should agree that to pay $70-100.000 for a car that needs brake recall is sad story...my hopes is that Tesla repairs will give a more realistic prices in the future. Tesla 3 will not cost $40.000, but much less, and open competition will drop EV prices to realistic levels, so the general public will consider and EV car. At this moment seems GM Bolt has the upper hand, at least in price. Only time will tell.
Even McLaren has recalls.
 

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Not rooting for TESLA failures...just we should agree that to pay $70-100.000 for a car that needs brake recall is sad story...my hopes is that Tesla repairs will give a more realistic prices in the future. Tesla 3 will not cost $40.000, but much less, and open competition will drop EV prices to realistic levels, so the general public will consider and EV car. At this moment seems GM Bolt has the upper hand, at least in price. Only time will tell.
You do realize Ferrari had recalls for adhesive failures that caused terrible fires right? All cars have recalls. It's funny you laugh at recalls and root for GM... They know more about recalls than anyone...#TeamRecall=GM
 

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OK recalls are frequent, but" give me a brake" , lol,,, a recall in new technology , batteries, electronics etc....but in a parking brake , seems a little bit too much, the are quite a few stories about poor quality control, for the price....let them produce a basic EV car at $20.000, and then we could complain about brake recalls...after all the hand brake was in service over 120 yrs ago.
 

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...after all the hand brake was in service over 120 yrs ago.
Not the one in my Volt. I don't like a parking brake that doesn't have a cockpit lever. The damned thing is still cable driven at the wheel but it has an electrical component between me and the cable. No power = no brake release unless you know the trick to mechanically release it (and you have to climb under the car).
 

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Unfortunate for Tesla. It sounds like the sort of routine problem any manufacturer can experience. Might be a little tougher for Tesla from a financial point and a logistical point though.
 

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First, maybe this should be in the Tesla forum.

Second, I think the bigger concern is what percentage of the Tesla fleet this represents. If GM, Toyota, or VW have to recall 50,000 vehicles, it's not even a blip on the radar. For Tesla, that represents a very large percentage of their total sales. These types of issues can be catastrophic when they start mass producing thousands of vehicles a week. Of course, when they hit those volumes, they might become aware of the issues sooner.
 

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Not the one in my Volt. I don't like a parking brake that doesn't have a cockpit lever. The damned thing is still cable driven at the wheel but it has an electrical component between me and the cable. No power = no brake release unless you know the trick to mechanically release it (and you have to climb under the car).
I was skeptical of the point of electric parking brakes until I learned that they do have a purpose. It's to assist will hill starts. The parking brake stays engaged until the driver presses the throttle pedal. Pretty useful if you park on hills often. I'm not 100% sure if the Volt does this, I haven't had a chance to test it.

As for the Tesla recall, what's the big deal? Every car will eventually get a recall of some sort. My old car, a 2001 Chevy Impala had 3 recalls for the same exact issue throughout its lifetime. The 3.8ltr engine could leak oil onto a hot exhaust manifold which may ignite. The last recall was in 2015, in which they replaced one valve cover and removed the plastic engine cover. I don't remember what they did with the previous recalls as that was a long time ago.
 

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OK recalls are frequent, but" give me a brake" , lol,,, a recall in new technology , batteries, electronics etc....but in a parking brake , seems a little bit too much, the are quite a few stories about poor quality control, for the price....les get a basic EV car at $20.000, and then we could complain about brake recalls...after all the hand brake was in service over 120 yrs ago.
How about a 30 million vehicle recall for an ignition switch that killed people? Give us a break. Sorry but you only digging yourself a deeper hole. First step: stop digging.
 

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Wow !!! I am glad i did this comment in a VOLT forum ,not in a TESLA. Apparently is a Universal acceptance of basic failures by the manufactures,,,I just want it to say that after the above issues, the Bolt probably is a better buy for your money...Thats all, I stop digging!!!
 

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I was skeptical of the point of electric parking brakes until I learned that they do have a purpose. It's to assist will hill starts. The parking brake stays engaged until the driver presses the throttle pedal. Pretty useful if you park on hills often. I'm not 100% sure if the Volt does this, I haven't had a chance to test it.
If you've ever lived or been in a city like San Francisco, you know how to do this with a lever brake. You learn very fast.
 

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Not sure but I think the Volt has no manual transmission. All your experiences on San Francisco roads is based on manual transmissions. Who does that today... So what's the big deal?
 
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