[VoltinME]

Ok I know that the 2nd Gen Volt is still very new but has there been any discussion, rumors or thought as to what a possible 3rd Gen Volt might be like or different? Different look? More Range? etc. Love to hear of anything that might be in the planning stages.

 

[Steverino]

has there been any discussion, rumors or thought as to what a possible 3rd Gen Volt might be like or different? Different look? More Range? etc. Love to hear of anything that might be in the planning stages.

No one knows, so you can just speculate away.

 

[marcusm]

I don't know. Will the longer range of bevs like Bolt and its descendants mean they won't bother with Gen 3? Personally I hope they keep working on it...At a bare minimum put voltec in larger vehicles as batteries get cheaper


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[Bacardi]

GM made constant improves to the Gen1 and has a lot of time between the MY17 and MY18, let's see what updates, if any, appear for the MY18...Taking off cues from Bolt EV, a MY18 could gain darkened grills, 7.2KW charging and maybe the display/surround mirror...

With a true Gen3, if there even is one, a lot will depend, let's see the Bolt EV demand and finally let's see how the seemingly pro-oil politics play out...

 

[Steverino]

I don't know. Will the longer range of bevs like Bolt and its descendants mean they won't bother with Gen 3? Personally I hope they keep working on it...At a bare minimum put voltec in larger vehicles as batteries get cheaper

Without an EREV I would not buy a BEV.

 

[marcusm]

I agree, particularly with cold-weather sapping the range of electric vehicles.


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[!arry4pyro]

I'd like to see the Volt go away, but I would like to see its DNA live on with Voltec based plug-in propulsion systems in every vehicle line GM makes.

 

[Neromanceres]

Well by the time the Gen 3 Volt hits the market the US federal tax credit will likely be gone.

So the Gen 3 will likely be updated with new technology options. Similar EV range. Slightly better fuel economy and lower MSRP.

 

[GSP]

Some things that I think would be possible and I would like in a third generation Volt are:

1) smaller, lighter, less expensive battery with equal or higher capacity
2) smaller, lighter, less expensive range extending engine (with performance in hybrid mode still the same as EV mode, unlike the i3)
3) more passenger and cargo room
4) quicker acceleration
5) autonomous driving option
6) 4G/5G internet data and hot spot at more affordable monthly cost

GSP

 

[canehdian]

There have been at least 3 other discussions on a gen3 volt elsewhere in the forums - have a look there for some ideas that have already been floated around, and build from there.

 

[rand49er]

There have been at least 3 other discussions on a gen3 volt elsewhere in the forums - have a look there for some ideas that have already been floated around, and build from there.

Aw, you're no fun! That's too much work! j/k

I just wonder if GM's EV braintrust is spread thin and is concentrating on the Bolt a bit now and the Gen 3 Volt (assuming they're be one) is out a few years maybe MY20 or MY21. Still, this is an interesting exercise.

 

[canehdian]

Here are two to get you started
http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?260353-Gen-3-Volt-my-prediction
http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?252074-Is-GM-developing-a-Gen-3-Volt

 

[hellsop]

6) 4G/5G internet data and hot spot at more affordable monthly cost

Heh. They're still selling metered minutes on PHONE CALLS. I haven't had a cellphone plan with THAT on it in 20 years. Affordable data might come to OnStar in 2035.

 

[driver779]

If automotive engineers in general are listening:

Based on my experiences with vehicles used in a fleet setting, I want the following:

1) Eliminate the need for a mechanism that is dependent on electronics to release the charging door (2012 model year Volt and a 2015 Year Nissan Leaf)(yes I know they have a fix for this)
2) An option for Hacker-proof connectivity, or at least an option to remove completely OnStar at the dealer level. (Keep it simple stupid).
3) Base BASE model option. NO A/C, or for example when I was employed in defense research our Ford Focus fleets lacked a heater/defrost etc. I know Ford still offered this regionally/fleet vehicles a few years back.
4) Obviously realistic operating range of 100miles + without ICE, and with ICE 550 miles+
5) Functional fifth seat.
6) Battery heating option for colder regions that is more aggressive but could be optioned on. (like an RV aux mainland power port etc).
7) dare i say it... station wagon version?!?!??!?! I know... CUV this.. crossover that... but come-on you all know you want one.

Basically for the current generation of perspective EV/PHEV buyers... options options options with a stripped down frugality special for a cheap person like myself.

 

[Arcanox]

If automotive engineers in general are listening:

1) Eliminate the need for a mechanism that is dependent on electronics to release the charging door (2012 model year Volt and a 2015 Year Nissan Leaf)(yes I know they have a fix for this)

The charger port on the Gen 2 is all mechanical, no electronics required. You can open it with the 12V battery removed from the car.

 

[accelerus]

If they were to put some *useful* improvements in the car

A manual non power release switch or cord for the hatch. I found out the hard way when my 2017's 12V system died and left me on the side of the road. To get the car tow worthy, I had to crawl into the back to attach a jumper pack to get the car into Neutral and then apply parking brake. Non electronic gas door release would be useful as well.

for a 2017 - mine's been in the shop for two major fuse failures one that left me stranded on the side of the road. I'm pretty laid back and go with the flow but the way GM and the volt advisors handled my questions and issues makes me not even consider buying a 3rd gen if it came out. Love the car, but the people calling the shots on customer issues are retarded. Asked a few specific questions to the Volt advisors (GM social media team here on the forum) and when I asked to speak to someone higher up, they basically said "nope we don't allow that", their support team made it pretty easy to start looking at Tesla more seriously in the next few years. Dumped my stock holdings of GM as well... yup, that's how much confidence they've inspired.

 

[GHanssen]

Gen3 would be what, 2021? Anyone think we'll see a Volt with a hydrogen fuel cell instead of gasoline ICE? Probably not before 2025 or 2030 (if ever)..

Autonomy is likely the next big thing for electrified vehicles. I'm curious to see the approach the different OEMs pursue. GM/Delphi is invested in advanced sensors like solid state LIDAR, but Tesla is claiming level 5 autonomy with little more than a few extra cameras (in addition to the existing hardware on a Volt w/ACC). Of course human drivers are nothing more than stereo vision on a gimble with advanced processing.. If autonomy can be done with relatively cheap HW (processing, cameras) vs LIDAR, that's a game changer. I suppose other RF stuff like V2V communication would be fairly cheap as well.

Then of course comes the societal question.. Certain presidential candidates promised bringing back jobs lost to automation and clean energy. The number of jobs related to driving a vehicle is.. Yuge. So what happens when these jobs are all lost to autonomous vehicles?

OT a bit.. Sorry.

 

[alfon]

Look for the 3rd generation Volt with a 100 miles electric range, an even more fuel efficient motor, obtaining over 50 + mpg in gas engine only mode. I can see the battery will be flat similar to the Bolt, also the weight of the gen 3 volt will be a least 200 lbs less the the current Gen 2 Volt. It will have to be a big improvement for the Gen 3rd Volt to sell when the $7,500 Fed Tax Credit expires.....

 

[Taser54]

Iterative improvements of existing design. Battery pack size and chemistry changes allowing for faster l2 charging and increased capacity. Incremental Improvement in range extender power and fuel efficiency.

Non-iterative design changes- Replacing T pack with a flat pack-lessons learned from Bolt. Cabin space redesigned.

 

[Loboc]

A manual non power release switch or cord for the hatch. I found out the hard way when my 2017's 12V system died and left me on the side of the road. To get the car tow worthy, I had to crawl into the back to attach a jumper pack to get the car into Neutral and then apply parking brake. Non electronic gas door release would be useful as well.

Not a huge operating manual reader eh?

- The jump start points are under the hood.
- The gas tank is like a vacuum bottle. Depressurizing is needed to prevent blow-back. Deal with it.

Looks like you're not buying a GM vehicle anyways, so, good luck with that. All these advanced features are on other cars as well. Tesla is no prize when dealing with recall and service.