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Sadly, the ELR is no longer shown as a vehicle that Cadillac sells (though it is in their legacy vehicle sectoin of their website). In October 2013 I was eagerly awaiting the arrival of the ELR, but the $75K MSRP dashed those dreams. if it were $49,999 I'd be driving one right now. As soon as the ELR pricing was announced, I jumped in on a 2013 volt after the great $5K price cut, plus fed and state incentives (plus GM card rebate, plus dealer haircut, plus dealer pay your state sales tax deal). I regret not seeing the pattern of one with the volt, that 2 years after introduction ELR prices would plummet to $40-50K. I know it's not too late to let a leftover 2016 ELR, but after owning the volt, we really need our next car to be bigger, even Subyukonade sized (sububrban, Yukon, escalade). I refuse to trade in my cars when they are perfectly good and paid for - I basically run them into the ground and even then, keep them around far too long (1989 BMW 5 series, 1996 Sububran 3/4 ton, and 2004 CTS in the driveway)

Interestingly enough, the CT6 PHEV is nowhere to be found. GM even stopped making hybrid escalades a few years ago. I have about a year to wait and see what the EV landscape presents us. My 15 year old will be driving at some point and will likely get the volt as a hand-me-down.
 

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I echo your sentiments regarding the demise of the ELR. When I first got my Volt this past September, I researched the plugshare site to see if there were locations I could recharge, and make my 80 mile RT commute totally electric. I found an organic food company a block away. The CEO had level two put in so he could charge his ELR, and offered it other EV owners during hours he is not using. I didn't even know what an ELR was at the time, but got to meet the very cool CEO and check the car out. Real nice look. Really too bad GM did not follow the pattern you outlined above. At 75K this car was doomed, especially when competing against the sporty Tesla and it's range.
My wife drives an Equinox and wants the crossover/SUV size car. I am putting solar in very soon, and would like to become a two EV family, but the lack of bigger option just won't let that happen right now. (Im not paying 75 K for an Audi!) This decision on the ELR does not make me optimistic.
 

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I echo your sentiments regarding the demise of the ELR. When I first got my Volt this past September, I researched the plugshare site to see if there were locations I could recharge, and make my 80 mile RT commute totally electric. I found an organic food company a block away. The CEO had level two put in so he could charge his ELR, and offered it other EV owners during hours he is not using. I didn't even know what an ELR was at the time, but got to meet the very cool CEO and check the car out. Real nice look. Really too bad GM did not follow the pattern you outlined above. At 75K this car was doomed, especially when competing against the sporty Tesla and it's range.
My wife drives an Equinox and wants the crossover/SUV size car. I am putting solar in very soon, and would like to become a two EV family, but the lack of bigger option just won't let that happen right now. (Im not paying 75 K for an Audi!) This decision on the ELR does not make me optimistic.
I would recommend that you check out the Bolt EV when you can to see whether or not the space is adequate for your needs. I hear that the cabin is surprisingly spacious.
 

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I would recommend that you check out the Bolt EV when you can to see whether or not the space is adequate for your needs. I hear that the cabin is surprisingly spacious.
The bolt might work for no fumes but it doesn't come close for me. I need huge cargo capacity and the ability to tow a 16 foot utility trailer, a 24 foot airstream, and hay rack wagons. The bolt doesn't even come close to fitting those requirements. .
 

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I have about a year to wait and see what the EV landscape presents us.
I need huge cargo capacity and the ability to tow a 16 foot utility trailer, a 24 foot airstream, and hay rack wagons.
Internal combustion engine it is! There's no way an EV meeting that criteria will be in the market in the next year, or two, or three. Not with the current gas prices and political climate.
 

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Internal combustion engine it is! There's no way an EV meeting that criteria will be in the market in the next year, or two, or three. Not with the current gas prices and political climate.
Agreed, but a voltec would be nice. Or a Via Trux, but they refuse to sell me one because I'm not a fleet operator (despite the fact I have a fleet of 4 vehicles for 2 drivers. Next step is to reduce the fleet down to two (or three).
 

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I picked up my new ELR for $43k after incentives almost two years ago. Yep, I took a hit on the leased Volt, but, it was worth it to me.

Driving a show car every day!
 

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I picked up my new ELR for $43k after incentives almost two years ago. Yep, I took a hit on the leased Volt, but, it was worth it to me.

Driving a show car every day!
After taking a hit on my wife's dodge daytona a few decades ago when we both had hatchbacks and we needed a sedan when she was about to give birth, I leaned my lesson and will never take that sort of hit again. We paid too much on the new car and gave up the old one for too little. Alas, on paper it means all of my cars take a 100% depreciation, but that's over 2 decades so the per car/per yaer hit is smaller. Had I not been cash flowing a child's presegious East Coast college tuition at the time (i should have insisted that she go to a state school, but we'll see if that money was well spent - she's got many interviews for full rides with med school/PhD programs) I could have bought 3 or 4 ELRs.

A heavily discounted ELR would have been a great car to get 2 of, one to drive, and one to park as a collectors item. There are so few of them on the road and they are so sexy that they are bound to be worth something 20-40 years from now.
 

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Given the current prices on the Volt, depending on your situation a new one could make sense. The hit would not be that large, you save a couple of thousand with the new warranty, and the current generation is a more comfortable car. Having said that, I'm happy with my 2011 MY Volt, but I have an ELR for long trips. It's a super comfortable car for that and the ACC makes a huge difference. For short commutes those advantages are still there but aren't that important.
 

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Given the current prices on the Volt, depending on your situation a new one could make sense. The hit would not be that large, you save a couple of thousand with the new warranty, and the current generation is a more comfortable car. Having said that, I'm happy with my 2011 MY Volt, but I have an ELR for long trips. It's a super comfortable car for that and the ACC makes a huge difference. For short commutes those advantages are still there but aren't that important.
I still contend that we need to wait another year and Volt prices will be even lower. I have a volt for my commuter car, but it's too small for the full family on long trips.
 
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