[VoltenRock]

I was over at Carmax to get a quote on my car and the salesman was all excited to show me the one gray ELR they had on site. It was a 2014 with 31K miles. They were asking 31K for it.

I had seen them on the road, and one parked, but never sat in one--so couldn't say no.

How luxurious! I didn't have time to take it for a test drive, but I really enjoyed starting it up and getting a sense for its impressive audio system and all the automatic features the car offered--heck even the auto-close of the cupholder compartment was a nice touch. The tan interior looked stellar.

It's a real shame that this car never caught on with the public (or the dealers for that matter). It really is a gem of a vehicle.

 

[Mister Dave]

All of a sudden there are seven 2014 ELRs available within 50 miles of me (with 22-46K miles). It almost seems like they're being dumped off. I check every so often and I rarely see any for sale within 200 miles. I didn't know there were that many around. I've only ever seen an ELR on the road twice.

$30K seems to be an average price.

 

[Julien]

All of a sudden there are seven 2014 ELRs available within 50 miles of me (with 22-46K miles). It almost seems like they're being dumped off. I check every so often and I rarely see any for sale within 200 miles. I didn't know there were that many around. I've only ever seen an ELR on the road twice.

$30K seems to be an average price.

3 Year leases are ending and no one can afford to buy their lease out because of the residuals.

 

[TheBlueFlash]

3 Year leases are ending and no one can afford to buy their lease out because of the residuals.

^this^ plus they probably realized a gen 2 with 53 EV miles and 4 doors is much more practical than a luxury coupe with 37 EV miles.

 

[Loboc]

A little over two years ago, I bought my ELR.

Driving a show car every day!

 

[Mister Dave]

3 Year leases are ending and no one can afford to buy their lease out because of the residuals.

I didn't think of that. Makes perfect sense. Not sure if it's affording it, or just not dumb enough. Besides, they can run out and lease a CT6 now. Maybe not a hybrid though.

 

[Julien]

....Not sure if it's affording it, or just not dumb enough.....

Yes, I didn't really mean they 'could not' but most residuals are probably about $40k for a car worth about 30k. And that would be obtuse to buy. Also most people that lease are looking for a new car anyway or they would have bought to begin with.

 

[DonC]

The ELR was a wonderful car for 2014. But with technology moving so fast the drive train is definitely dated.

 

[RoRo]

^this^ plus they probably realized a gen 2 with 53 EV miles and 4 doors is much more practical than a luxury coupe with 37 EV miles.

The ELR did not have 37 miles of range it was closer to 42-50.

If I drove the car like a sports car I would still wakeup in the morning with 43-44 range. If I drove it efficient I could easily get 50-55.

GM did not recertify the ELR for EPA testing. The ELR could use about 12.0 to 12.4 kwh of the 17.1 kwh pack.

 

[timoshev]

Too bad GM didn't wait a few months to upgrade the ELR to Gen 2 specs. Bad timing all around, but for ELR buyers that hold on, you will own an unbelievable and affordable future collectible. Park it right next to your Aztec....

 

[TheBlueFlash]

The ELR did not have 37 miles of range it was closer to 42-50.

If I drove the car like a sports car I would still wakeup in the morning with 43-44 range. If I drove it efficient I could easily get 50-55.

GM did not recertify the ELR for EPA testing. The ELR could use about 12.0 to 12.4 kwh of the 17.1 kwh pack.

Thanks for the clarification. I was going off of the 2014 ELR EPA rating of 37 miles. My other point is still valid...gen 2 Volt is a much more practical vehicle (cheaper yet having more range, people and cargo room).

 

[volt11]

^this^ plus they probably realized a gen 2 with 53 EV miles and 4 doors is much more practical than a luxury coupe with 37 EV miles.

More practical, yes. A relative hair shirt, also yes. If and when they make the Volt a more bespoke car and not a low end Cruze plug-in, I might get interested again. Only that's very unlikely to happen.

 

[Julien]

Thanks for the clarification. I was going off of the 2014 ELR EPA rating of 37 miles. My other point is still valid...gen 2 Volt is a much more practical vehicle (cheaper yet having more range, people and cargo room).

Actually you are correct. the ELR is rated at 37 EV miles (EPA 82eMPG) and the Volt 2 is rated at 53 EV miles. You can extend both (or any EV or ICE) by driving conservative (granny driving). I drive my ELR normally to semi aggressive and mine stats at 38 EV miles almost every day.

Today I drove about 15 miles a little conservative (and lucky) and got 3.36 miles per kWh. So tomorrow mine may say 39 EV miles.

 

[volt11]

The ELR did not have 37 miles of range it was closer to 42-50.

If I drove the car like a sports car I would still wakeup in the morning with 43-44 range. If I drove it efficient I could easily get 50-55.

GM did not recertify the ELR for EPA testing. The ELR could use about 12.0 to 12.4 kwh of the 17.1 kwh pack.

The 2016 ELR was a worlds better car than the 2014 version, considerably more powerful, and range even improved slightly to a (yes it was recertified) EPA rated 40 (with the added Performance Package, that went down to 35, but I routinely do much better than that in mine.) I think mine hits 13.1 KWH used in the 17.1 battery pack before switching to gas (the 2014 used the 16.5 KWH pack, pretty sure.)

Read all about the 2016 here:
http://tinyurl.com/zgyornx (links to GM's media site)

 

[sea]

I sat in one. Then pulled the trigger.

2012 Gen 1 owner since new. Wanted a low mile ELR (less than 10K miles). 2014s comming off lease found the color and options I wanted, Dark grey, RS, 5600 miles, CPO extended warranty. Carefully considered the 2016 improvements. Simply not improvements I valued enough to pay extra for.

In the 65 months of Gen 1 ownership I only burned 150 gal primarily on long trips. Rarely got home with less than 12 miles remaining. ELR might have the same guts, I'm 100% ok with that, but it is a whole different experience.

 

[Edju]

Thanks for the clarification. I was going off of the 2014 ELR EPA rating of 37 miles. My other point is still valid...gen 2 Volt is a much more practical vehicle (cheaper yet having more range, people and cargo room).

How many ELR owners bought theirs for practicality? Bueller? Bueller?

FYI, I just picked up a 2014 Spark EV for my daily 100+ mile RT commute. I plan on keeping my ELR "FOREVER". Spark has been amazing with its efficiency, averaging 6.2 miles/kWh for approx. 900 miles driven so far. It shows 100 mile range after a full charge.

 

[Julien]

I sat in one. Then pulled the trigger.

2012 Gen 1 owner since new. Wanted a low mile ELR (less than 10K miles). 2014s comming off lease found the color and options I wanted, Dark grey, RS, 5600 miles, CPO extended warranty. Carefully considered the 2016 improvements. Simply not improvements I valued enough to pay extra for.

In the 65 months of Gen 1 ownership I only burned 150 gal primarily on long trips. Rarely got home with less than 12 miles remaining. ELR might have the same guts, I'm 100% ok with that, but it is a whole different experience.

Good job. I also waited until a Crystal red/Light Cashmere low milage (7990 [titled at 8008]) came available off lease (bought in late July). I also wanted a 16 but the $10K premium at this time (and no Crystal Red) is too much. In 3 or 4 years when they are closer in cost I can see buying a 16 but not now. Unfortunately the ELR is such a POOR performance car (slowest car I have ever owned except for an Explorer) and the 16 only slightly improves this (Voltec is EXTREMELY limiting). Still it is the fastest looking standing still and my next will probably be a Tesla (please make a coupe off the M3).

 

[Mister Dave]

I sat in one. Then pulled the trigger.

I wonder how Seattle PD feels about discharging firearms inside of a vehicle.

 

[hotspur]

The 2016 ELR was a worlds better car than the 2014 version, considerably more powerful, and range even improved slightly to a (yes it was recertified) EPA rated 40 (with the added Performance Package, that went down to 35, but I routinely do much better than that in mine.) I think mine hits 13.1 KWH used in the 17.1 battery pack before switching to gas (the 2014 used the 16.5 KWH pack, pretty sure.)

Sorry to say, but this is absurd hyperbole. A 1.4 second improvement 0-60 is "world's better?" Nonsense. Only if you are a juvenile hotrodder who intends to drag against Toyotas and the like, because the ELR was never intended to be a hot rod. You want a hot rod, buy a Corvette or an M3. And the so-called "performance" package on a 2016 gives you the terminally-ugly econobox wheels from a cheap Buick Cascada instead of the stylish wheels from Cadillac's gorgeous concept car. World's better? Don't make me laugh.

As far as the OP's $82k to $30k worry, anyone who paid anywhere near $82k was simply a dope.

 

[Jester84]

1.4 secs in 0-60 is a SERIOUS improvement if that is true!