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Results From First Documented Test Of Tesla Model 3

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The Model 3 is quicker, stops sooner, tackles the figure-eight faster, has more horsepower and torque, steers quicker, and uses a quarter of the energy than the BMW 330i.

https://insideevs.com/results-first-documented-test-tesla-model-3/#comment-1375010
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Thermal issues really limit electric cars to drag races. They just are not designed to handle max power for long periods of time. ...
How do we know this without independent testing?

I've seen a track test where a Tesla Model S outruns its TMS and starts reducing power.

It was stated a Bolt can do this.

We need professional testing, not weekend warrior track day results!:cool:
We need professional testing, not weekend warrior track day results!:cool:
Shouldn't we be able to look at the RC industry that has an extensive history with high performance battery chemistries and motors and extrapolate?
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How do we know this without independent testing?

I've seen a track test where a Tesla Model S outruns its TMS and starts reducing power.

It was stated a Bolt can do this.

We need professional testing, not weekend warrior track day results!:cool:
There have been enough reports that thermal limiting does happen on the race track with current ev's. It can be overcome, but the current market really doesn't require it. It is far more load than required for normal driving. Even more load than the bolt would see running at max speed for the whole battery pack. As a bolt owner I am not going to take it to the race track. I have other vehicles that are built for that purpose.
When I raced at Laguna seca our qualifying session was 50 min. My only concern was if my 4ah battery would run the ignition for 50 min. It did and I ran the whole qualifying session at race pace. Pretty sure there is no production ev that could do that today. That doesn't mean it won't happen.
Is the 'reply with quote' working for others?

RC's do not have a TMS, just like the Leaf :p, so the only thing that can be done to keep the smoke in is to limit the current, IN and OUT.
Besides, those RC guys flog their batteries so hard with crazy C rates that they are fine with <100 runs in a battery's life.

As for "current crop of EV's", it must vary how much the power is limited and how soon.
I'm sure ambient temp has something to do with it.

That's all I'm asking; how does a Bolt and a Model 3 compare when flogged on a track?
Similar tires, same skilled driver.

You know, just to stir it up with the Fanbois!:D
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How does a base Bolt and a base Model 3 compare when flogged on a track?
Similar tires, same skilled driver.
~10-20 mins worth, just to allow any Thermal Power Reduction to begin.

Just askin'

:DPlaceyobets....:p
First you have to GET a TM3 to play with. And a driver without vested interest in either line.

Bolt seems to do okay for what it is, though. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2017/09/turns-out-the-chevy-bolt-is-a-lot-of-fun-to-autocross/
First you have to GET a TM3 to play with.
Might as well ask how the Bolt and the 2019 Buick EV compare...
AUTO-X !! Yay!

Fun article, but 'The Results' section... am I missing something? Where are the results?

And as I said, 'similar tires'. Proper tires and properly inflated for the job. (although this crew should know about that)

AUTO X is a more typical real-life race comparison, whereas track/road racing is a different beast.
Road racing events go on long enough for PRDTT to rear its ugly head.:mad:
No mention of that in the Auto-X article.

power reduction due to temperature :p
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