[SolarExec]

Dan Neil, WSJ auto reviewer, just wrote a very good - and funny - review of the Model 3 Performance edition. "If you were hoping Tesla would fail on account of the Model 3 I’ve got bad news: This thing is magnificent, a little rainbow-farting space ship, so obviously representative of the next step in the history of autos. I know there are a lot of Tesla bears, haters and cynics out there. Tesla boss Elon Musk makes it easy. But in the spirit of charity I think we can all agree many brilliant people are putzes."

"But the car is a star. Doubters will have to bring it. Show me another car with an all-glass roof and five-star rollover crash rating. Point out another $80,000 sedan that out-clouds a Rolls-Royce, out-punches a Porsche Boxster and gets an electric equivalent of 116 mpg. You can’t, unless you’re building something in your garage we don’t know about."

 

[scottf200]

I'm looking forward to the YouTuber Marques Brownlee — aka MKBHD — input of a Tesla Model 3 Performance video review on destined for Instagram’s new IGTV platform.

 

[hellsop]

$80k Model 3?

 

[scottf200]

$80k Model 3?

Top of the line performance model. Please point out comparable prices of other ~3.5 second and 155 mph sedans.

Of special note to driving enthusiasts -- a second, higher-power dual-motor, AWD performance model will also be available, featuring a brisk 3.5-second 0-60 mph time, a 155-mph top speed and the same 310 miles of range. Those numbers suggest that the high-end Model 3 will deliver performance very similar to that of today's larger Model S hatchback.
...
What does performance cost? $78,000 including "cost of all options, wheels, paint, etc. (apart from Autopilot)," says Musk. The CEO continued, "About same as BMW M3, but 15-percent quicker & with better handling. Will beat anything in its class on the track," he claims. (BMW's 3.0-liter turbocharged sport sedan features 425 horsepower, a 3.9-second 0-60 mph time and starts at $66,500.)

 

[Synovialbasher]

$80k Model 3?

I love Tesla and I want them to succeed, but for the car that was supposed to be much more accessible for the masses, this absolutely baffles me. At that point I would just buy a Model S.

 

[Steverino]

Today on two short drives I saw two Model S, three Volts, a Leaf with a full diaper, a Bolt, and two ICE Alfa Romeo's.

I conclude that EV's are about as common around here as Alfa Romeo's. A totally scientific survey and analysis, haha.

 

[Shivetya]

Top of the line performance model. Please point out comparable prices of other ~3.5 second and 155 mph sedans.

that was not the point of the three III. But apologist have to do their jobs

 

[flyingsherpa]

I love Tesla and I want them to succeed, but for the car that was supposed to be much more accessible for the masses, this absolutely baffles me. At that point I would just buy a Model S.

I get what you're saying, but this $80k version is the long range, dual motor Performance one. It will have greater range and performance than an $80k Model S (note the Performance version of the S is at least $40k more, IIRC). The cheapest currently available Model 3 is $50k, which is much more accessible than any S, but I still can't wait to see what the $35k version is like.

 

[flyingsherpa]

that was not the point of the three III. But apologist have to do their jobs

And haters gotta hate...

There is no "one" point of the 3, other than being cheaper than an S. This Performance 3 is much cheaper than a Performance S, just like the base 3 is much cheaper than a base S. No one is being forced to buy a P version, I don't see what the big deal is. At least they offer these things for people that want them, no one else is doing that with EVs. How many times have people here talked about wanting an SS Volt, but when Tesla does it then it's suddenly a bad thing?!?!

 

[Qinsp]

$80,000 - $10,000 in California is $70k (+ sales tax) for 0-60 in 3.5s with 155 mph top speed.

2018 Camaro - $65,000 (dealer incentives and GM points not included):

Zero to 60 mph: 3.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.4 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 12.4 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 18.4 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 1.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.5 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (drag limited, C/D est): 195 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 143 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.04 g

Note that the car is traction impaired. It will go quicker on better tires. Notice the 1/4mi trap speed.

 

[VoltageDrop]

I have a Model 3 Dual Motor Performance on order and I cannot wait......

 

[scottf200]

I have a Model 3 Dual Motor Performance on order and I cannot wait......

Neither can my kid. Saw this post today: 'AWD (Non-P) just scheduled delivery... August 6th'

Just got our Delivery Date and time of Monday Aug 6th. 5pm!
Call received at about 130 pm Eastern
Date probably could have been a little earlier but will be on vacation July 28th-August 5th
They couldn’t guarantee before the 28th
So...
The end of a 2yr and 4month wait is almost here!!!


AWD
LR
Premium
18” wheel
No EAP or FSD
3/31/2016 reservation
Ordered 6/30/2018
VIN. .....546xx


Cleveland OH

 

[scottf200]

Tesla Model 3 Performance version

Experimental 'Track Mode' (not final name assuming it makes it in car).

MKBHD -- https://www.instagram.com/tv/BleQd6TAjIw/

 

[Qinsp]

2 settings for the babysitter? Amazing. A Volt has 3. ALL ON. T/C OFF. S/C-T/C OFF. Then the sport thingy which is just tip-in.

You should see what performance cars have now. Even the limited slip differential is programmable. Affordable cars started getting these systems about the turn of the century. My 2002 has Competition Mode, which is a special track calibration. And you can adjust the suspension with hand tools in 5 minutes, including ride height.

 

[MTN Ranger]

$80,000 - $10,000 in California is $70k (+ sales tax) for 0-60 in 3.5s with 155 mph top speed.

2018 Camaro - $65,000 (dealer incentives and GM points not included):

Zero to 60 mph: 3.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.4 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 12.4 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 18.4 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.9 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 1.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.5 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (drag limited, C/D est): 195 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 143 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.04 g

Note that the car is traction impaired. It will go quicker on better tires. Notice the 1/4mi trap speed.

The base price (which includes premium package) is only $64,000. The optional $5k performance package includes 20" wheels, lowered suspension and better brakes with a top speed of 155mph vs 145 isn't really necessary.

Less the $7500 tax credit is $56,500. That is an extremely good deal for the performance.

 

[z06dustin]

Top of the line performance model. Please point out comparable prices of other ~3.5 second and 155 mph sedans.

Well... I mean any car? "Will beat anything in its class on the track". As long as that track is *really* short. The 3 will do as poorly as the S on the track. Porsche is the first manufacturer that I've read of which is talking about making a trackable electric car.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/tesla-model-s-p85d-at-lightning-lap-2016-feature

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