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Hello, I am currently using the 110v plug that came with my 2013 volt. Its painfully slow at charging. I have been weighing the pros and cons of 220v hard wired and plugless system. Can anyone recommend a solid hard wired brand, I have been looking on amazon, they range from 399 and up.
 

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If your Evse has a screwed on back cover, it is a Clipper Creek supplied model and can be modified to accept 240v power. If it is sonically welded, then this isn't an option. If you need to buy, I would go with CC, very reliable, US made with great support, along with low cost. We are using an LCS20 and it has been flawless for several years now.
 

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I installed a wall-mounted L2 EVSE when I got my first EV (2013 Volt coincidentally). If I were to do it over again, I'd get a more portable unit with dual voltage. A 2016/17 Volt OEM unit would be perfect as all they require is an adapter plug to go 240v.
 

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Thanks guys are you thinking the 16 or 32 amp? big difference in price.
Ok, this gets very subjective. Personally, I would go with the larger amp with the smallest increase in price (Best Value or Best overall compromise). The Volt will only charge at a rate of 3.3KW (2011-2015) or 3.6KW-ish (2016-2017). Most cars are starting to go with 6.6KW slightly larger. This is where the debate comes in. Personally, I prefer to go larger for the future purchases I may make. But this is a personal preference. I would much rather have a EVSE that can charge at a rate of 7KW even though the Volt can't charge at that rate because I may purchase a car in the future that can benefit from it WITHOUT changing the EVSE. So, pay slightly more now and benefit later. But that is I, said the fly. ;)

Personally, if I were buying today, I would go with the HCS-40 for $565 as I belief that is the best overall value at the moment from Clipper Creek.
 

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Awesome response as thats what I had found in my research as well, its not required to go higher but preferred for future.

thanks!
 

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I got an awesome deal on Amazon for my GE Durastation. Its ugly, with no frills, but it does the job. You can hard wire it, or put a plug on it, that choice is yours. I hardwired mine. I believe it can support up to a 7.2kwh charge rate, so that will be helpful if a future vehicle I own supports it.

The concept of the plugless system is nice, I really wanted one but couldn't get past the cost, and the limited charge rate. The limited charge rate does not matter with the Volt, however I was planning for current and future use. Plugless being limited to 3.3kwh didn't blow my skirt up when I thought about owning a future BEV.
 

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Just as an aside, are you sure you're charging at the 12A rate, or only at 8A? The 2013 Volt needs to have the charge rate over-ridden in the car each time you charge, to avoid the very slow 8A charge rate.

The difference is a full charge in about 8-10 hours instead of 16+ hours. Still half the speed of 240V, but the 8A charge setting may be a lot of the frustration you're having.
 

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Yea, but, you need to look at the capacity of your power panel. You might have a situation where a 16 A charger can be added with a simple breaker, but 32A takes you over the limit...
 

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I split the difference. I ran wire capable of handling a 30 AMP circuit, but installed the Clipper Creek LCS25 (20 AMP charge rate) because the next size up was a large increment at the time. Running the wire is the hard part, and I didn't want to have to do it over again if I got a car with a more powerful charger. I bought another Gen 1 to replace my expiring 2013 lease, so I'll be good for several more years. I would think you could find a used EVSE from somebody who decided not to buy another electric.
 

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I see a lot of you purchased a Clipper Creek charger. I had picked up the ChargePoint+ 32 amp charger w/25' cable. While it was a few hundred dollars more than a CC, after having it running for almost a week now, I really like how it can tie in with my power provider and give me estimates on how much power it is using and how much $ it will cost. The smartphone app is ok and gives you useful information. One thing, the app does require you to put in a credit card, but that's essentially because if you use one of the ChargePoint+ charging stations that charge a fee, it will be auto billed.

So far, I'm pretty happy with the CP.
 

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I see a lot of you purchased a Clipper Creek charger. I had picked up the ChargePoint+ 32 amp charger w/25' cable. While it was a few hundred dollars more than a CC, after having it running for almost a week now, I really like how it can tie in with my power provider and give me estimates on how much power it is using and how much $ it will cost. The smartphone app is ok and gives you useful information. One thing, the app does require you to put in a credit card, but that's essentially because if you use one of the ChargePoint+ charging stations that charge a fee, it will be auto billed.

So far, I'm pretty happy with the CP.
I bought the same one. What interested me was the integration with the app for charging information and scheduling flexibilities.
 

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doh! it was set to 8 I changed it, thanks Firehawk72
I just got a Gen 1 2013 Volt this week and that was the first thing I ran into also. Just don't be surprised that it re-sets back to 8 every time you re-start the car. So you need to manually change to 12 every night before plugging in. I finally got mine to charge at the higher rate after accidentally re-setting it when I pulled up a little short of the cord length the first time.
 

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My advice... Future proof by putting in larger wire now but only purchase the EVSE for today's needs. When the time comes, sell the EVSE with the car and get a new EVSE if and when you get a new model with higher charging capacity. Technology will advance and get less expensive as you go. The wire will be good for decades.

I've got a TurboCord Duo EVSE and appreciate the portability it provides. With that said, you can't go wrong with Clipper Creek either.
 
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