[Trampis]

So I'm headed down to southern California to visit friends/family and coincidentally there's a 2014 at the Costa Mesa Chevy dealer that I've been eyeballing on the web. Premium with Nav, rear camera, Safety 1 & 2 packages, 20K miles. They're asking $17,999. It's not Certified Pre-Owned.

What do y'all think I can get them down to? Cash on the table.

 

[freshcut]

That can depend on a lot. How long has it been on the lot, Has there been much interest in the car, etc. I would personally be surprised if you could get it for much under $15K. They usually have some wiggle room, but generally not as much as a new car would have. Cash definitely talks, but usually not as much when buying a car, especially used, since the biggest chunk of profit is made through the deal itself including added charges (after sale items) and kickbacks from the bank taking the loan.

My opinion, you might end up around 15.5-16 if they're willing to work the price much, which I think would be a good drop from the 18 they're asking.

 

[Trampis]

They've had in on their lot since July 11th. Maybe instead of a cash offer I should find out when their prepayment penalty period is for one of their loans, finance through them, and then pay it off once the penalty period runs out lol.

My problem is I really want the car. Not that they will know that, but it makes it that much harder to walk away if they don't budge on the price.

 

[llninja]

Agreed, $15-16k is a good price. But you could shoot the moon, haggle like a ferengi, and try to get it for less. But if you have the cash, why would you bother financing the car? It just makes the car more expensive with every passing month because of compounding interest. Go for the 100% down, $0 per month, 0%, unlimited mile option. Not having a car payment is wonderful.

 

[Trampis]

Agreed, $15-16k is a good price. But you could shoot the moon, haggle like a ferengi, and try to get it for less. But if you have the cash, why would you bother financing the car? It just makes the car more expensive with every passing month because of compounding interest. Go for the 100% down, $0 per month, 0%, unlimited mile option. Not having a car payment is wonderful.

Freshcut had mentioned they might give more if you finance through them. If that was the case, I'd finance it then pay it off as soon as possible without penalties. But if the terms were like earlier than 1 year you pay penalties, then screw it.

 

[llninja]

Freshcut had mentioned they might give more if you finance through them. If that was the case, I'd finance it then pay it off as soon as possible without penalties. But if the terms were like earlier than 1 year you pay penalties, then screw it.

Another tact is to walk in with a big $14K wad of cash, flash it, say you'd like the car, but that's all you have on you at the moment, and you really don't want to drive all the way back home to get more - ito would be easier to drive across town to another dealership for a different car. Let them hem and haw about setting up financing for the remainder and respond that your grandma thought you to never borrow money, and you're not going to dishonor her memory by borrowing. Now, iF you can get them to budge to $15K then pull that extra thousand out of your other pocket. Of course, you'll have to adjust the cash on hand to also include taxes, title, and license.

 

[Trampis]

Another tact is to walk in with a big $14K wad of cash, flash it, say you'd like the car, but that's all you have on you at the moment, and you really don't want to drive all the way back home to get more - ito would be easier to drive across town to another dealership for a different car. Let them hem and haw about setting up financing for the remainder and respond that your grandma thought you to never borrow money, and you're not going to dishonor her memory by borrowing. Now, iF you can get them to budge to $15K then pull that extra thousand out of your other pocket. Of course, you'll have to adjust the cash on hand to also include taxes, title, and license.

I like the way you think...

Yo salesperson...$15,500 out the door. Or I'm out the door.

 

[llninja]

I like the way you think...

Yo salesperson...$15,500 out the door. Or I'm out the door.

If there is another car dealership across the street, start walking slowly over there talking about whatever you see over there in their used lot (Liek a mustang or camaro). Search the Internet for the Ferengi rules of acquisition. It's meant to be humorous, but there is a lot of good advice buried in those rules. Business is business but latinum (money) is better.

By the way, I haggled and aligned a bunch of rebates in order to buy a new $44k 2013 Premium for $21k with state tax included. The big chunks were yeh fed tax credit, state rebate (Sadly the program is now suspended) and a GM card rebate. GM threw in $5k because of the 2014 model year price cut, the dealership took another $1500 off, my trade added another $1500, and then there was a state taxed paid for free sale. Best deal I everde on a car.

My previous conquest was a new $33k MSRP CTS for $23K before tax, title, and license. I got the CTS fro the price of an Impala.

BTW, an all important question for folks in Cali... does this car have HOV green stickers on it? Depending on your commute, that could make a difference.

 

[Trampis]

BTW, an all important question for folks in Cali... does this car have HOV green stickers on it? Depending on your commute, that could make a difference.

It has the green HOV stickers on it in the photos.

 

[indyflick]

That's low miles for a 2014, but it's priced ~$1K above market down here. You could get a 2015 with even lower mileage for that kind of money. Here's an example of a 2015 with backup camera but I don't think it has Nav.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/707200812/overview/

 

[Trampis]

That's low miles for a 2014, but it's priced ~$1K above market down here. You could get a 2015 with even lower mileage for that kind of money. Here's an example of a 2015 with backup camera but I don't think it has Nav.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/707200812/overview/

Yeah, no nav or any of the safety packages. Also not a Premium. I actually looked around for a 2015 and came up zero. Maybe I need to check again. Thanks!

 

[llninja]

It has the green HOV stickers on it in the photos.

Worth its weight in gold if you commute in highways.

Btw, see if you can figure out if this was a late model 2014. some 2014s made very late in the year actually had a slightly bigger battery destined for 2015 models.

 

[indyflick]

Btw, see if you can figure out if this was a late model 2014. some 2014s made very late in the year actually had a slightly bigger battery destined for 2015 models.

It was likely leased in July 2014 but it could have sat on the dealership's lot for awhile. What month in 2014 did they begin using the bigger battery? I'd like to check my 2014.

 

[llninja]

It was likely leased in July 2014 but it could have sat on the dealership's lot for awhile. What month in 2014 did they begin using the bigger battery? I'd like to check my 2014.

The easiest way to check is to deplete your fully charged battery. If you went through 10.1 to 10.6 kw you have the 2013-4 battery that is rated for 38 miles of range. But if you consistently get 10.7 to 11.1 kw, then you have the bigger 2015 battery. Gm never re-rated the EPA estimates for the 2015 since the gen2's were right around the corner arriving in June 2015.

Yeah, no nav or any of the safety packages. Also not a Premium. I actually looked around for a 2015 and came up zero. Maybe I need to check again. Thanks!

So definitely not worth $18k except for the HOV stickers, low mileage, and demand in Cali causing prices to be higher than other places in the country. Rear visibility is horrible in the volt, and even though I have the rear camera, I always pull through whenever possible while parking so I don't have to back up.

 

[wizard_of-ahs]

So I'm headed down to southern California to visit friends/family and coincidentally there's a 2014 at the Costa Mesa Chevy dealer that I've been eyeballing on the web. Premium with Nav, rear camera, Safety 1 & 2 packages, 20K miles. They're asking $17,999. It's not Certified Pre-Owned.

What do y'all think I can get them down to? Cash on the table.

I got the same car with 25k miles AND it was a CPO for $16,000 .

 

[hollywood]

I just bought a CPO 2014 Volt yesterday. 36k miles, off lease, cloth interior (which I prefer over sweaty leather). It was originally priced at $16k, marked down to $14k, and I got another $500 off that. Probably could have gotten another $500 or maybe more if I wanted to push the sale to the end of the month, but I didn't want to risk it getting gone (although it had been sitting there since April).

Whoever had it must have not used much gas, its lifetime mpg is 250+

 

[wizard_of-ahs]

I just bought a CPO 2014 Volt yesterday. 36k miles, off lease, cloth interior (which I prefer over sweaty leather). It was originally priced at $16k, marked down to $14k, and I got another $500 off that. Probably could have gotten another $500 or maybe more if I wanted to push the sale to the end of the month, but I didn't want to risk it getting gone (although it had been sitting there since April).

Whoever had it must have not used much gas, its lifetime mpg is 250+

Nice catch !!

 

[freshcut]

Worth its weight in gold if you commute in highways.

Btw, see if you can figure out if this was a late model 2014. some 2014s made very late in the year actually had a slightly bigger battery destined for 2015 models.

Not really so anymore. The green stickers are now in unlimited supply. It used to be they were highly prized, but since they lifted the cap at the beginning of the year they don't add any value to the car.

 

[llninja]

Not really so anymore. The green stickers are now in unlimited supply. It used to be they were highly prized, but since they lifted the cap at the beginning of the year they don't add any value to the car.

Obviously I don't live in Cali, just vicariously through Cali folks on this forum

 

[indyflick]

BTW, an all important question for folks in Cali... does this car have HOV green stickers on it? Depending on your commute, that could make a difference.

It's actually not that big a deal. You can get the carpool stickers for a Volt for $22. The program goes through Jan 2019.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal