Poll: 2018 Bolt vs 2018 Model 3 Range.
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Coming from Spark EV @ 75 mile range, Model 3 will be a huge upgrade. Difference between 238 mile range and hypothetical 215 mile range is not significant. Tesla supercharger network negates any range difference anyways... At highway speeds M3 will be more efficient.
I don't think it will matter at all. 190, 200, 215, or 250 will all likely be viewed the same way for the Tesla (although any number that doesn't begin with a 2 will result in some marketing heat for a while). The reality is that all of those numbers basically work pretty darn well for in town use. We charge our Tesla to around 208 daily. After that it comes down to dc fast charging and right now Tesla owns that market for longer distance driving.
Tesla's challenge won't be range but their ability to manufacture at a high rate, with reasonable quality and servicing...oh yeah, they need to make a profit too.
Tesla's challenge won't be range but their ability to manufacture at a high rate, with reasonable quality and servicing...oh yeah, they need to make a profit too.
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The only thing comparable about those two cars is that they are both EVs. Range isn't as big of a consideration when over 200 miles. If the Model 3 has less than 200 miles range then every 10 miles less is an increasing reason not to choose a Model 3.
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Both might be awesome vehicles but I'm not interested in either vehicle. For me our 2017 Volt matches my life style, but I still lust over a Model S primarily due its size, performance and Super Charger network that the Bolt lacks. Too bad the M3 isn't a hatchback.
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I doubt the model 3's EPA range will move the needle substantially one way or the other on reservations getting converted to purchases. Tesla to their credit has built a great brand and the model 3 certainly looks attractive to me. I really hope they eat the 3 series / A4 / C class lunch.
I think the difference between 215 and 240 is significant (it's a good bit of your Spark range). Doubt very much the single motor M3 will be more efficient at highway speeds. Agree Tesla charging is an advantage assuming you want to go on longer trips, which I doubt many people will do.
Mostly think talking about how the M3 compares to anything is a waste of time until it is actually released so you can see the interior and have the specs and price. The first ones may have a higher capacity battery, longer range, and a higher price. Or the opposite. Makes a big difference.
Would love to see this. However, the only people I know who have a BMW 3 series are in their 20s-30s. work in cubicles. and live in apartments. The first is not a problem but the second means charging could be a huge deterrent.
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Already made the decision and it's a Bolt in my garage. The real world availability of the M3 is just too far out. I was not on the 400k list, so it would be years at best before I could get one. The Bolt was available now when I needed a car. Maybe in 4 years with 100k on the bolt I will look at a tesla.
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I had to vote "other" because there was no choice for "Model 3 range is irrelevant to me because I prefer the more utilitarian Bolt".
Well, besides misspelling 'choose', I also skipped the "I already decided the Bolt was the better choice in EVs" choice because I was curious about those who still held Model 3 reservations.
I read comments on the web about Model 3 reservation holders worrying about whether the Model 3 will have more or less range than the Bolt. I see it as immaterial. So far, the poll agrees.
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214 would probably be fine.
There's also fast-charging rate, which would also be a factor. And availability, of course.
Plus, there's also the Nissan Leaf Gen 2, and who knows what else by 2019.
214 would probably be fine.
There's also fast-charging rate, which would also be a factor. And availability, of course.
Plus, there's also the Nissan Leaf Gen 2, and who knows what else by 2019.
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Bolt EV no matter what. It's all about the crossover shape; I don't want a sedan.
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I think this poll is irrelevant because the model 3 will both underperform and overperform the bolt in range. I;m guessing that they will have a lineup of batteries similar to the model s 40/60/70/85/90/100. So the lowest model will give you less range than a bolt, and if you pay a bit more you can exceed the bolt. I wish gm gave us a choice on battery range with small, medium, and large battery options. Supersize me.
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For the time TESLA 3 is here ,BOLT gen 2 would be in the market !!!.
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I doubt it. Bolt gen1 just arrived. For the volt, there were 4 model years for the gen1. So the bolt gen2 probably won't arrive until at least calendar year 2021 unless they fast track a replacement. The real hope is that they put a bolt-like drivetrain into more vehicles, like a larger sedan, wagon, CUV, truck, SUV, etc.
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I also voted "Undecided or Other" because I have to wait until any of the two arrive here in Puerto Rico. There are seven Model S here (I posted pictures of one on the Tesla forum here) yet there is no "showroom" or service shops for any Tesla Motors models. GM hasn't brought the Chevy Bolt EV yet. Maybe by December it will arrive and I can swap the Equinox for the Bolt EV.
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The Model 3 isn't here! It exists only in the TM factory. Both 2018 models are imaginary and I bet both will be just updated for 2018. Gen 2 Bolt EV will appear by 2021.
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I had a reservation, placed it during the reveal, then later got a refund because I wanted something more like a 5 series size rather than a 3 series. Interestingly the model S is more like a 7 series BMW in size.
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