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So I've been sifting through a lot of reviews and info on here to replace my 2012 Volt's tires. Based on what I've read, the Pirelli Cinturato P7 and Michelin Energy Saver A/S are 2 of the better ones but if any of the experts here wanted to lend me some advice or alternative tire suggestions I'd really appreciate it! My car came with the Delinte DH2 Eco and I'd like to maintain the best battery range I can. I'm in southern California so no need for any snow tires. Thanks for any info!

edit: Thank you everyone for all the amazing info! THIS is why I love this site! The Pirellis are what I'll likely be going with, the cheapest place I can find them on is Amazon for about $110. I've never ordered tires online before but I'm going to research that a little and if also see if somewhere nearby would price match
 

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I am not by any means a tire expert, but I believe the Pirelli Cinturato P7 would be in the same class as the Michelin Premiers. Those are touring all season. The Energy Savers are designed for efficiency.

Like many things in life tires are a trade-off. I choose the Premiers because of ride and performance, especially on wet roads, but gave up some efficiency (like four miles of range). The Ciinturato P7s would probably give you the same thing, more or less. The Energy Savers would give you more range (but less on the other parameters). It's really a personal decision and can depend on your driving cycle. No right or wrong. In my case I'm either driving well under the range or well over. Rarely right at the range. If I were I would likely have been more concerned about efficiency.

You might want to look at TireRack.com. It has some good reviews on various tires.
 

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I have the self-sealing Pirelli Cinturato P7 on the 2016 and 2017. I have not noticed a significant loss of range even though they are 235/45-17 and much grippier (Treadwear 260). But they are rated at 51 psig max pressure, which is where I run them.
 

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I have the self-sealing Pirelli Cinturato P7 on the 2016 and 2017. I have not noticed a significant loss of range even though they are 235/45-17 and much grippier (Treadwear 260). But they are rated at 51 psig max pressure, which is where I run them.
I think I've lost something like 5% - 10% of the range with the Michelin Premiers. This test indicates the Pireli are 1% better on the efficiency front. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=188 Not much of a difference. I went with the Michelins because of wet road performance but all four test tires had something to recommend them.
 

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When I was very recently shopping, the Pirellis (which I got) were significantly less expensive than the Michelins. If the performance is such a close call, the price should tip the balance.
 

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When I was very recently shopping, the Pirellis (which I got) were significantly less expensive than the Michelins. If the performance is such a close call, the price should tip the balance.
Ya if they're the same, performance wise, then price would definitely make the final decision. Did u also notice a drop in range when u switched to the Pirellis?
 

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We've had our P7's on our 2013 for almost 15 months now. We love them, they're quieter and seem smoother than the oem's. We've not seen any degradation in range at all.
 

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Already did my research for tires -- 2017 owner here with almost 18K on the clock. I figure in another 10 or 15k I'll need tires.

Will be going with a set of Pirelli Cinturato's P7's for sure. While I have no major problem with the stock Michelin Energy Savers, they are less than optimal in any sort of wet driving. I've had them spaz out even in pretty basic turn situations in the wet.

I usually go through discount tire direct and have them shipped directly to my house, however amazon prime has way better prices though. You can get the Pirelli P7's for $110/ea with free shipping.
 

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I lost between 5-10% of range on my LEAF when I put Pirelli P7s on, some of it came back after 2000km wear, but ultimately lost about 5% due to the tire, I think. They are so darn quiet, that I am happy to make the sacrifice.
 

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I haven't been able to find Energy Savers in the 215 /55 R17 size. I'm trying to decide between Michelin Defenders and the P7 Plus. I'm also debating between T rated and H rated tires. Any input regarding this?
 

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Already did my research for tires -- 2017 owner here with almost 18K on the clock. I figure in another 10 or 15k I'll need tires.

Will be going with a set of Pirelli Cinturato's P7's for sure. While I have no major problem with the stock Michelin Energy Savers, they are less than optimal in any sort of wet driving. I've had them spaz out even in pretty basic turn situations in the wet.

I usually go through discount tire direct and have them shipped directly to my house, however amazon prime has way better prices though. You can get the Pirelli P7's for $110/ea with free shipping.
Ya the ones I have now have had mini freakouts when making a simple turn on wet road so I'd like to avoid that for sure. And I saw the P7s on Amazon which has been the lowest I could find for them anywhere. Do you (or anyone can chime in) have experience with ordering tires from Amazon? I wasn't sure if it was as easy as it sounded to just pay amazon the fee and take them in to be put on but if that is indeed the case, I'm definitely okay with that!
 

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Wife had a flat. Can't be fixed. I zeroed in on the P7s but seem tough to find on short notice. BTW Onstar sucks. Took 3 hours to get a tow truck in the middle of the damn city. Leaving the wife stranded in a parking lot for 3 hours is doesn't do much for CPO renewals.
 

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Wife had a flat. Can't be fixed. I zeroed in on the P7s but seem tough to find on short notice. BTW Onstar sucks. Took 3 hours to get a tow truck in the middle of the damn city.
 

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I really liked my Michelin Defenders on my Prius. However, when our Colorado traction law went into effect, I decided to buy Michelin X-Ice for year-round use on my Volt. I also bought snow cables. Yes, state law forced me to lose driving efficiency despite never having difficulty driving safely through snowstorms in the mountains with all-season tires.
 

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Ya the ones I have now have had mini freakouts when making a simple turn on wet road so I'd like to avoid that for sure. And I saw the P7s on Amazon which has been the lowest I could find for them anywhere. Do you (or anyone can chime in) have experience with ordering tires from Amazon? I wasn't sure if it was as easy as it sounded to just pay amazon the fee and take them in to be put on but if that is indeed the case, I'm definitely okay with that!
You are just ordering the tires from amazon - there's no feel or service that I know they offer to actually get the tires on you car. What I've done in the years past ordering tires online is they just arrive directly to my doorstep. I'll throw them in the back of the car and take them to discount tire to be mounted/balanced.
 

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Broke down and ordered a set from Amazon. Cheaper than tire rack even after a 60 dollar rebate and a 50 dollar gift card.
 

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Wife had a flat. Can't be fixed. I zeroed in on the P7s but seem tough to find on short notice. BTW Onstar sucks. Took 3 hours to get a tow truck in the middle of the damn city.
So it took a bit of work but ended up with a set of the P7s. Realize it's a new set of shoes but there's no comparison to OEM.
 

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So it took a bit of work but ended up with a set of the P7s. Realize it's a new set of shoes but there's no comparison to OEM.
happy with mine so far. one thing that amazes me is how light the factory goodyears are, I imagine that is why they're so good for range and so bad for leaks and blowouts.

only complaint with the pirellis is they tramline on grooved pavement, my previous tires didn't. Maybe as they wear in it'll stop. Lower pressure might help too.
 

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So even though I'm only at like 20k miles and have rotated regularly, once again last night I felt my OEM Goodyear Assurance FuelMax tires lose traction on the highway when going underneath an overpass and hitting a wet patch. That being said, I think it's time to spend a few hundred bucks to put on some new tires. I've also lost traction when braking sometimes just driving around the city in the rain like when approaching stop signs at slow speeds.

I'm not a tire expert and am confused about all the different options in tires. I live in Dallas and just want something with better traction and that are quieter and provide a smoother ride, even with a little trade-off in range.

I'm leaning towards the P7s, but was curious if this is the right size and what everyone above was referencing. Just was hoping to confirm before I order. Thanks.

https://www.amazon.com/Pirelli-Cint...=1493565075&sr=8-2&keywords=pirelli+p7+17#Ask
 
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