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Other than some die-hard "must be an EV sports car" or "must be a gas engine sports car" people, drivers seem to like the Bolt EV. That means a rash of Bolt EV/GM hate articles are sure to follow, lol.
 

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Very cool to see. And I agree, Steverino, there's a lot to like about the Bolt for the pragmatic car buyer...which there are far more of than some automotive journalists would like you to think.
 

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Very cool to see. And I agree, Steverino, there's a lot to like about the Bolt for the pragmatic car buyer...which there are far more of than some automotive journalists would like you to think.
Yep. I don't need to make a "HEY!! LOOK AT MEEEE!!" statement when driving a car around like a Tesla for example. In fact, I prefer the "boringness" of the Bolt, as I'd rather blend into the background anyways.
 

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I'd rather blend into the background anyways.
Agreed... since I stopped driving cars that really stand out, my insurance costs have dropped quite a bit. It's much easier to zip past a cop at +15 in a car that blends in versus one that stands out.
 

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Yep. I don't need to make a "HEY!! LOOK AT MEEEE!!" statement when driving a car around like a Tesla for example. In fact, I prefer the "boringness" of the Bolt, as I'd rather blend into the background anyways.
Actually what you are describing is more like a bright red ferrari. Most Tesla's look rather understated compared to the cars they compete with. But you are right about the "boringness" of the bolt as most don't want to drive around in an ugly car saying "look at me" my car is so ugly that I stand out.

I mean who actually wants to buy a car that looks and performs good?

Let me help you with that as it is a lot more than those who want an ugly car that performs good. Then again I could be wrong but I didn't see to many people standing in line for the bolt.
 

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Actually what you are describing is more like a bright red ferrari. Most Tesla's look rather understated compared to the cars they compete with. But you are right about the "boringness" of the bolt as most don't want to drive around in an ugly car saying "look at me" my car is so ugly that I stand out.

I mean who actually wants to buy a car that looks and performs good?

Let me help you with that as it is a lot more than those who want an ugly car that performs good. Then again I could be wrong but I didn't see to many people standing in line for the bolt.
Ugly cars....haven't really stopped Prius sales. There are evidently a lot of people just fine with driving around ugly cars. The Bolt LOOKS like a Tesla when lined up next to a Prius or Leaf. Lol

The Bolt is not a Tesla, and I'm fine with that. Practicality and utility trump looks. Image whore I am not....I'll take "boring" and functional every time. :) Just not FUGLY like the Leaf or Prius.



 

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Ugly cars....haven't really stopped Prius sales. There are evidently a lot of people just fine with driving around ugly cars. The Bolt LOOKS like a Tesla when lined up next to a Prius or Leaf. Lol

The Bolt is not a Tesla, and I'm fine with that. Practicality and utility trump looks. Image whore I am not....I'll take "boring" and functional every time. :) Just not FUGLY like the Leaf or Prius.



You seem to think that for some reason only the Bolt is pratical and has utility. Please show me what you mean by this as compared to other good looking cars. Is it more practical than a better looking car? Does it have more utility than a better looking car?

When your only answer it is practical and has utility that is just like saying the ugly girl has a good personality. Meaning that you can have a good looking girl with a good personality too but you choose the ugly one just because she has a good personality.

When the vast majority of the people would prefer a car than not only has function but form too then you have a problem with the car you are trying to sell.

As for all the pictures once again those are all cars that very few would find attractive. The prius was a car that said exactly what you said you didn't want...it was a look at me car that said I am an environmentally conscious driver look at me. It was ugly but found an audience.

The leaf was very much the same as so many people took pride in how hideous it looked because they wanted to be seen driving an electric car. The vast majority of people don't want to be noticed for driving something so repulsive to the eyes it stands out but would much rather have a good looking car that does the same thing as the other ugly ones.

For you to like the ugly duckling is your choice and I will not fault you for that as this is America and being able to make a choice is always a good thing. Though to think that it will sell in volume even though it is so ugly would be a delusion that only the hardcore fanboys would think true.
 

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I'm much more into functionality than form, and I don't generally care very much about styling one way or the other. But I really am put off by the new Prius, to the point where I'm glad it doesn't have the functionality I want.

I have no problem with the Bolt's styling. My main feeling about the Bolt is that it's exactly the form factor I want - essentially a small hatchback. The Tesla Model 3 has no attraction for me whatsoever because the form factor is all wrong for my needs.
 

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I have no problem with the Bolt's styling. My main feeling about the Bolt is that it's exactly the form factor I want - essentially a small hatchback. The Tesla Model 3 has no attraction for me whatsoever because the form factor is all wrong for my needs.
Same here on all points.

The obsession some have in trying to slam the Bolt as NOT being a sexy sedan is odd to me, given that Chevy already has a sedan: the Volt. Also, the consumer trend is toward trucks, SUV's and CUV's so the Bolt is aligned with that trend. If anything, people want it to be even more "UV", not less.
 

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You seem to think that for some reason only the Bolt is pratical and has utility. Please show me what you mean by this as compared to other good looking cars. Is it more practical than a better looking car? Does it have more utility than a better looking car?
Let me pick on a random, better looking car... say, a Tesla. The Bolt is far more affordable, has more usable space, is easier to park, is cheaper to drive, and has a better drivetrain layout for poor weather conditions. Sounds more practical to me.
 

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Let me pick on a random, better looking car... say, a Tesla. The Bolt is far more affordable, has more usable space, is easier to park, is cheaper to drive, and has a better drivetrain layout for poor weather conditions. Sounds more practical to me.
About the only thing you got right is that it is cheaper. You obviously haven't seen a Bolt otherwise you wouldn't say such stupid things as it has more usable space. I have been in both and the Bolt is a much, much, much smaller car that has much less usable space. I also am amused that you think the 2 wheel drive bolt is better in poor weather than my 4 wheel drive that is heavier and has larger tires. As for parking the last time I checked I can tell my car to park itself. Can the Bolt park itself? It almost seems archaic that someone would still drive a car that you can't get out of and have the car park itself. Parking itself is easier than manually parking right?

So once again you found that an ugly car is cheaper...big shock.
 

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Lemme get some of that Elon spiked Kool Aid too! Lol

The Bolt could be better in every way compared to a 3 (or even S), and you'd still be refusing to say anything nice about it. Fanaticism at its finest. Or worst? Whatever dude.
 

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Girls, Girls, stop fighting about style. There are no rights and wrongs in style and art.

Now,,, interior space, winter traction with FWD vs. RWD, taking advantage of Regen with FWD vs. RWD, The ability to drive it Normal Style and get that Regen w/o learning a new driving style, the usefulness of a hatchback, EPA ratings for range, price, dealership networks...........

These are all SPECs and can be measured with the same stick.

Now go pick out your clothes for the day ...:p
 

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Lemme get some of that Elon spiked Kool Aid too! Lol

The Bolt could be better in every way compared to a 3 (or even S), and you'd still be refusing to say anything nice about it. Fanaticism at its finest. Or worst? Whatever dude.
Nope, no spiked kool aid here I had high hopes for the Bolt. Just like I had high hopes for the BMW. Just like I had high hopes for every EV that comes out. It wasn't until the Volt came out that any EV was worth looking at and I do mean looking as all that came before it were god awful ugly and I didn't want to spend my money on something that I and most find repulsive.

I wasn't one of those that just went out and put an order in for the Model 3 before they even showed what it looked like. If Tesla created something that even looked half as hideous as the Bolt I would have said thanks but no thanks. I do not lock onto brands but find the best cars for the money. If GM came out with something that looked like the Model 3 and Tesla came out with a hatchback then I would be waiting in line for a Bolt instead of a Model 3.

Just like my phones I seek the best tech out there not who made it. I have owned apple, samsung, multiple HTCs and now I have one from a company I can barely pronounce the name properly but because I did the research I went with what I consider one of the best phones on the market (at least the market a year ago) a Huawei Nexus 6P.

I am brand beholden to no one just give me a good looking car with the capabilities that the Bolt has and this fool would have been parted with his money. Unfortunately just like the when the i3 came out I was very much disappointed in the styling of the vehicles.

Unlike those on here that constantly try and defend the poor styling and hideous looks of the Bolt by saying that it has "great utility" I call a spade a spade and GM wrapped a capable EV in a crap coated minivan of a shell.
 

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Not if it doesn't fit in the parking space.

To be fair, the Model 3 should be smaller than the Model S, so it should be easier to park. But we don't really know because, right now, the Model 3 can fit in the palm of my hand. You know, due to the fact that it still doesn't exist.
Actually neither is out right now because the only Bolt I can get my hands on would be a downloaded picture of one because it is so ugly no one would make a model that would fit in the palm of my hand.

When the Model 3 does come out I bet there will be a lot more taking up parking spaces than the Bolt so it may be hard to actually see which one fits better in a parking spot because with 30,000 at best shipping next year and mostly confined to 2 states they won't be easy to compare.

Btw if it doesn't fit in the parking spot it will just do this:
 

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Actually neither is out right now because the only Bolt I can get my hands on would be a downloaded picture of one because it is so ugly no one would make a model that would fit in the palm of my hand.
Wrong again, just like all your posts. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-2017-Ch...0709?hash=item25c8503955:g:k50AAOSwImRYIqJ o

Like the non-existent production Model 3, a diecast version of the 3 doesn't exist yet either. :D

When the Model 3 does come out I bet there will be a lot more taking up parking spaces than the Bolt so it may be hard to actually see which one fits better in a parking spot because with 30,000 at best shipping next year and mostly confined to 2 states they won't be easy to compare.

Highlighted words for emphasis. All you can do is make future "bets" about the Model 3, because it's pure vaporware! Unlike the Bolt which is rolling off the production lines as I type this. :D

Chevy Bolt is Green Car Reports' 2017 Best Car to Buy
Chevy Bolt is MotorTrend 2017 Car of the Year
Chevy Bolt is Autoguide 2017 Green Car of the Year

Lots of awards brought home by the "vaporware" Bolt. Lol

Bolt is also a finalist for Green Car Journal's 2017 Green Car of the Year as well as the North American Car of the Year awards, which it will likely also win. Meanwhile, Tesla gets shut out. :D

But hey, MotorTrend at least named your cult leader Elon as Person of the Year. ;)
 
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