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http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/03/technology/gm-chevrolet-zh2/index.html, electric , quiet, a little better "off road".
Next generation Chevy Volt
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Except it's a hydrogen fool cell. Still, it's an electric motor power train.
I can see GM aiming this at truck owners because it has a military macho aura that would allow some to embrace an EV despite their aversion to plain green. Camo green..now you are talking!
I can see GM aiming this at truck owners because it has a military macho aura that would allow some to embrace an EV despite their aversion to plain green. Camo green..now you are talking!
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Is it just me, or does hydrogen seem like an absolutely crazy fuel to utilize in a military environment?
And for "thermal signature" having been such a point of concern in the article, why they wouldn't just go BEV...and have none whatsoever?
And for "thermal signature" having been such a point of concern in the article, why they wouldn't just go BEV...and have none whatsoever?
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The miliary funds many things that will never see combat...some of them are just "pet projects" of a Senator or Congressman...because the "work" will be performed in their district or they will benefit personally...
Here is one of the more bizarre and expensive...
Take the DP-2 — an experimental, vertical take-off aircraft that "Congress has spent more than $63 million on… [but] has never flown more than a few feet," ABC News reports, online and in hilarious video.
The military absolutely hates the thing, as this House Science Committee report reveals. But, year after year, ol’ Duncan has kept earmarking major funds for the plane (this year, he asked for $6 million) — while the plane’s designer stuffed the Congressman’s campaign coffers.
https://www.wired.com/2007/06/hunters_folly_6/
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That would be a great private plane. The ultimate toy for the five percenters and up. I'll take one that comes off lease.The miliary funds many things that will never see combat...some of them are just "pet projects" of a Senator or Congressman...because the "work" will be performed in their district or they will benefit personally...
Here is one of the more bizarre and expensive...
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Take the DP-2 — an experimental, vertical take-off aircraft that "Congress has spent more than $63 million on… [but] has never flown more than a few feet," ABC News reports, online and in hilarious video.
The military absolutely hates the thing, as this House Science Committee report reveals. But, year after year, ol’ Duncan has kept earmarking major funds for the plane (this year, he asked for $6 million) — while the plane’s designer stuffed the Congressman’s campaign coffers.
https://www.wired.com/2007/06/hunters_folly_6/
I suspect it has to do with power density and speed of refueling. Why is hydrogen crazy in a military environment? Go on any base or combat vehicle and you are surround by explosives, high voltage, high pressure lines, etc.. Hydrogen is no more dangerous than many other fuels used by the military.
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Because of how it needs to be produced, especially in an environment where most of the infrastructure is temporary, as in a deployment somewhere.
To generate hydrogen in this environment electrolysis is the only viable option, requiring mass amounts of electricity. And time.
At that point, the age old argument comes into play - why not just use that energy directly in an EV vs converting it to a different form (Hydrogen), only to convert it back again in the vehicle (to electricity) for propulsion.
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