[ace]

I was wondering for those of you on this forum that have purchased the Model X. How satisfied are you with the vehicle? Would you buy it again? How are the falcon wing doors holding up? Would you buy the bigger battery? Do you regret buying the x over the s? I would love to hear moderators (Scott and Walter) takes on their teslas. Thanks for any of the telsa owners who chime in.

 

[saghost]

Best car ever.

But seriously, it's been a great car. I'm at around 22k miles after a little over a year, and I really like it. I had a couple minor issues from the factory that the service center quickly addressed, and I haven't had any other issues except a bolt in one tire, likely from the house under construction down the street.

I'm spoiled now - after a couple of road trips with it, I won't buy another daily driver or road trip car without functionality equivalent to the current Autopilot. It can be a literal life saver, especially if you have to drive long hours or while short on sleep, and it makes life much more comfortable the rest of the time. It's mostly useful on the two ends of the spectrum on the freeway - when you are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic and when the next car is a quarter mile up and you're just cruising along at the speed limit (or thereabouts ) for an hour or two.

Massive windshield, easy entry, effortless silky smooth power, Bioweapon filters so you never smell anything in the car, and traction control that's far beyond any I've experienced before. I don't use the FWDs very often, but they haven't caused any problems and I don't really expect them too.

I'm still aghast at spending six figures on a car, but there are a number of credit unions that make cheap loans available for Teslas, so with the savings I gathered for a couple years before buying, it's only a couple hundred a month more than my Volt was. (My Volt was also a great car, never gave me any trouble, but the Tesla outclasses it in every measurable way except for the benefits of the range extender. It's amazing that Tesla managed to give a 5,000 pound SUV the same efficiency as one of the most efficient compact cars.)

Definitely worth the price of admission. Would absolutely buy again.

 

[Upper5Percent]

I take it you have asked the question over here as well...
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/forums/model-x.84/

 

[ace]

I take it you have asked the question over here as well...
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/forums/model-x.84/

Not really. I wanted to get a somewhat more unbiased view from some folks that have also daily driven a volt. Every car has flaws and so it helps to have a comparison.

 

[ace]

Best car ever.

But seriously, it's been a great car. I'm at around 22k miles after a little over a year, and I really like it. I had a couple minor issues from the factory that the service center quickly addressed, and I haven't had any other issues except a bolt in one tire, likely from the house under construction down the street.

I'm spoiled now - after a couple of road trips with it, I won't buy another daily driver or road trip car without functionality equivalent to the current Autopilot. It can be a literal life saver, especially if you have to drive long hours or while short on sleep, and it makes life much more comfortable the rest of the time. It's mostly useful on the two ends of the spectrum on the freeway - when you are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic and when the next car is a quarter mile up and you're just cruising along at the speed limit (or thereabouts ) for an hour or two.

Massive windshield, easy entry, effortless silky smooth power, Bioweapon filters so you never smell anything in the car, and traction control that's far beyond any I've experienced before. I don't use the FWDs very often, but they haven't caused any problems and I don't really expect them too.

I'm still aghast at spending six figures on a car, but there are a number of credit unions that make cheap loans available for Teslas, so with the savings I gathered for a couple years before buying, it's only a couple hundred a month more than my Volt was. (My Volt was also a great car, never gave me any trouble, but the Tesla outclasses it in every measurable way except for the benefits of the range extender. It's amazing that Tesla managed to give a 5,000 pound SUV the same efficiency as one of the most efficient compact cars.)

Definitely worth the price of admission. Would absolutely buy again.

Walter. Thanks for the reply. What kind of range are actually getting out of the 75d, best case and worst case.

 

[saghost]

Walter. Thanks for the reply. What kind of range are actually getting out of the 75d, best case and worst case.

I'm not entirely sure how to answer that, because like most EVs (but unlike the Volt,) you generally don't drive from completely full to completely empty - you never want to risk getting stranded, and you generally stay away from the top 10% to reduce wear and speed charging.

The longest single trip I've done without recharging was 185.2 miles according to the trip computer, from ~95% to ~17% of rated SoC and including 8 hours of sitting parked but unplugged (site visit a ways away for work with no charging options.) Per the car, I was ~6% below rated consumption for that trip.

Last winter I did 172 in freezing weather in the Smoky mountains with a 100% charge by slowing down to 60-65 and preheating the cabin/battery before I unplugged (I think I ended with ~10% left, but the trip photo doesn't show the remaining that time unfortunately.) Tesla has since opened a Supercharger at the mid-point of that leg.

My lifetime average is 327 Wh/mile right now, compared to 308 Wh/mile rated according to Tesla (not the higher EPA rating that's from the wall, but the number where projected range and rated range cross in the center console.) That's mostly driven from last winter when I put on a lot of below freezing 70-80 mph miles on a road trip to Chicago and another one to Georgia (after those trips it was over 340 Wh/mile, but it's trending down.)

As with the Volt, on a short trip in freezing weather, you can easily double the rated consumption - especially if you're stuck with a cold soaked pack, and driving at 30-40 mph in ideal weather with HVAC off can easily halve it.

If I've been drinking normally before hand, I'm usually ready for a break within a couple hours anyway - and there's usually a Supercharger handy to plug in to then (424 locations of 4-20 stalls each open in the US today, and another ~50 or so we know details of on the way.)

 

[Mark Z]

I purchased one of the early Model X vehicles in December of 2015. A lot of posts were made about the repairs back in the early days.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/posts/1302439/

Conclusion: Avoid buying during the initial production run. In our case, Signature vehicles were the first ones, so we were willing to put up with the challenge of something new. I am pleased that the Tesla employees are the first to enjoy Model 3.

Be sure to check the Tesla Motors Club forum for current information about Model S and X. Here is a start:

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/rear-seat-will-not-fold-6-month-wait-for-repair.97456/

And some important history about the second generation of Autopilot:

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/happy-birthday-ap-2-0.100180/

 

[cory151]

I'll keep it short.

I have owned a 5 Toyota Prii, a Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt and a 2015 Tesla Model S P85D. The Tesla is the most amazing car I have ever owned. I love all the EVs Ive had, but none of them had the ability to accelerate so fast that it causes passenger to feel sick, looks amazing, parallel park itself and drives itself.

Lastly, if you are on the fence about the Model X, do not go take a test drive in one. I made that mistake and now I own one. Heed my warning. They are so good that you will lose sleep at night and every other car you see or drive will subconsciously be compared to a Tesla. Just my .2 cents.

 

[DonC]

The Model X may not be the least reliable vehicle being produced but it's likely very close to being that. TrueDelta is my favorite reliability site. Rather than a once a year survey it asks/nags for information every quarter AND asks for the specifics of the repair. https://www.truedelta.com/Tesla-Model-X/repair-frequencies-1317,2016-2017

Note this is NOT the same as satisfaction. I know people who really like their Model S who have had no end of problems with it.

 

[saghost]

The Model X may not be the least reliable vehicle being produced but it's likely very close to being that. TrueDelta is my favorite reliability site. Rather than a once a year survey it asks/nags for information every quarter AND asks for the specifics of the repair. https://www.truedelta.com/Tesla-Model-X/repair-frequencies-1317,2016-2017

Note this is NOT the same as satisfaction. I know people who really like their Model S who have had no end of problems with it.

Hmm. 2% engine, 10% transmission, 29% body and trim and 18% other. I'm not sure what to make of that - obviously, the X doesn't have an engine or a transmission in the traditional sense, and I haven't read of drive unit failures in Xs. Scrolling further down the page, several folks mention front half-shaft replacements for vibration during acceleration - that's probably the transmission and drivetrain results?

The 29% body and trim and 18% other makes perfect sense, though - it dovetails with Consumer Report's story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywh653ENljA&feature=youtu.be) where they said that the issues reported to them were mostly fit and finish and falcon wing sensor issues.

For whatever it's worth, my experience with X reliability so far has been exactly the same as my Volt experience - after some minor initial issues are corrected it's been perfect (my only Volt problem happened in year 4, when the mode button stopped working.) (I know, only one data point.)

 

[scottf200]

Best car ever.

But seriously, it's been a great car. I'm at around 22k miles after a little over a year, and I really like it. I had a couple minor issues from the factory that the service center quickly addressed, and I haven't had any other issues except a bolt in one tire, likely from the house under construction down the street.

I'm spoiled now - after a couple of road trips with it, I won't buy another daily driver or road trip car without functionality equivalent to the current Autopilot. It can be a literal life saver, especially if you have to drive long hours or while short on sleep, and it makes life much more comfortable the rest of the time. It's mostly useful on the two ends of the spectrum on the freeway - when you are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic and when the next car is a quarter mile up and you're just cruising along at the speed limit (or thereabouts ) for an hour or two.

Massive windshield, easy entry, effortless silky smooth power, Bioweapon filters so you never smell anything in the car, and traction control that's far beyond any I've experienced before. I don't use the FWDs very often, but they haven't caused any problems and I don't really expect them too.

I'm still aghast at spending six figures on a car, but there are a number of credit unions that make cheap loans available for Teslas, so with the savings I gathered for a couple years before buying, it's only a couple hundred a month more than my Volt was. (My Volt was also a great car, never gave me any trouble, but the Tesla outclasses it in every measurable way except for the benefits of the range extender. It's amazing that Tesla managed to give a 5,000 pound SUV the same efficiency as one of the most efficient compact cars.)

Definitely worth the price of admission. Would absolutely buy again.

Saghost made many good points. I live in Chicagoland and have had absolutely excellent service.

I had a fairly early Sig P90D version. I had 36K miles in 16 months before I had an freak accident with it. Very happy with how car handled it and took care of the passengers. Took quite a few roadtrips with friends and family. My insurance turned out very reasonable (i.e. matched expectations on depreciation for various examples I saw on the net). Verifying budget and various medical bills trickling in but am strongly considering another X by the end of the year. Based on traveling and cost I'd get a non-P 100D. Currently have 2 Volts at home between 3 of us. And yes I miss driving the X every time I get in our Volts.

Get OTA updates in one thing that really sets Tesla's apart from other companies. They have added features and have tweaked existing ones including some UI changes.

I had a few FWD issues related to the sensors sensitivity but ended up getting 3rd generation versions plus some early OTA software updates related to them and then they were great. Very nice for access to the 3rd row and standing up inside helping kids or a friend with MS as an example.

I used AutoPilot (AutoSteer+"AdaptiveCruiseControl") extensively. I'd say 20K miles and likely more. It is really an outstanding use case on any highway for traveling (and some bumper to bumper I've been in). Note that I had the first generation of AP and pay pretty close attention to the Tesla forums on AP2 (with HW 2.5) which is now pretty much on par after Tesla did a rewrite when Mobileye partnership when south.

The powertrain was excellent. I did have some of the halfshaft that got replaced. Not 100% sure I would have noticed if I was not flooring in in some 'testing' scenarios and having read the forums and looking for it. Tesla had procedures to measure their out of balance when rotating and it was out of their spec limits.

Note I've had a few issues with our Volts as well ... nothing major but still. This also includes taking them a few times in so they could download software to a USB stick and then insert it to do software maintenance. Did I mention OTA on the Tesla's being a big deal for several reasons.

Overall I'm very happy with my decision to get the Tesla X. OK, now you are making me go look at inventory cars again as well as walk through the configurator