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This is another Aesop's "Sour Grapes" mentality: If you don't reach the offer or award you want, then you badmouth the offer or award:
"Unfair criticism that comes from someone who is disappointed about not getting something"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sour grapes

Ford and GM accept the ratings given to their models, and take steps to redesign them for a better rating next time. The 2017 Chevy Bolt EV didn't get the "Top Safety Pick Plus" because of its glare producing headlights, but the vehicle is extremely safe to drive or ride in.

IIHS is a worldwide accepted independent crash test organization, and all the main manufacturers do their best to pass those test with "Good" ratings. Passing with "Acceptable" will not affect sales, but Musk is too proud to "accept" that!
 

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When polls say I'm doing good, they are correct. When polls say I am doing bad, they are fake news. :)

I recall Tesla touted the safety results when they were good. Now that they are bad, they are flawed?
 

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When polls say I'm doing good, they are correct. When polls say I am doing bad, they are fake news. :)

I recall Tesla touted the safety results when they were good. Now that they are bad, they are flawed?
Different organization. IIHS vs NHTSA. Whether you think one is "better" than another and which is a matter for unceasing arguments I'm sure.
 

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Great insight into what goes on in preparing for the IIHS small overlap test: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/05/06/behind-scenes-americas-most-important-crash-test/

These crash tests aren't performed in some locked up dungeon where no one can view firsthand what is going on. This ain't some horrible healthcare bill being crafted by a handful of people in secret. The manufactures are invited to observe each test and there is complete clarity about the whole process.
 

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Different organization. IIHS vs NHTSA. Whether you think one is "better" than another and which is a matter for unceasing arguments I'm sure.
Given that it's a known, standardized process, had the complaints been made before the test, it would carry more weight for me. Waiting until after you got your grade to complain that there was some sort of conspiracy seems like sour grapes.

At a minimum, the Tesla S is shown to be less safe in this test compared to other vehicles. If they are saying the results were fraudulent, then prove it. Otherwise, man up and make the car safer.
 

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Well, the strategy works for 45...:rolleyes:
 

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OT: Is Musk learning from Trump? Or is it just that some with big egos are incapable of accepting anything short of top billing without casting blame somewhere else.

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OT: Is Musk learning from Trump? Or is it just that some with big egos are incapable of accepting anything short of top billing without casting blame somewhere else.

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No, it's just part of the Tesla religious belief system held by some (not all—there are Tesla/Volt owners after all) that only Tesla's can be great, anyone who says otherwise is wrong on all counts regardless of the facts. Example 2: the Bolt EV is trash talked by Tesla zealots, just like they did the Volt. I actually admire much that Tesla has done, but I'm not drinking the kool-aide, lol. For the record, I think the Model X is a cool car, but I think Tesla has become for some people the snobby EV version of a BMW. That does not stop me from recommending it to some family members.
 

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It is always very hard as a parent to accept that your "baby" isn't perfect. And certain types of people tend to blame others when it happens to their "child". :)
 

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Wait. Tesla is not on this list. WTH? Over? Who moved the cheese,, or the 'newly' immoveable object?
The IIHS must have it in for Tesla. They are all TSLA shorts. :)
 

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Wait. Tesla is not on this list. WTH? Over? Who moved the cheese,, or the 'newly' immoveable object?
Yeah, I don't understand either. Tesla was top for IIHS and NHTSA for at least one or two years, trouncing everyone including Volvo. Is IIHS retesting these older cars?
 

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The Chevy Volt passed with flying colors, "Top Safety Pick+". Great job GM.
 

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I'll admit that the timing is somewhat convenient, considering it is contemporaneous with a number of EV hit pieces and Goldman Sachs shorting TSLA shares. Regardless, Elon needs to focus all of his attention on getting the Model 3 off the ground with quality and volume. If Tesla can do that, none of this will really matter long term.
 

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OT: Is Musk learning from Trump? Or is it just that some with big egos are incapable of accepting anything short of top billing without casting blame somewhere else.

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Make Tesla great again.......
 

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...., Elon needs to focus all of his attention on getting the Model 3 off the ground with quality and volume. ....
And hand over a few Model 3's for this crash testing.

Or put it off for as long as possible....
 
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