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I was thinking the Mercedes EQA (sedan) would be the Mercedes EV to get, but after seeing the reviews on the EQC, I'm impressed. It looks very well appointed, and it will even come with a certified 3,600 lb towing capacity. Overall, I think it has one of the best interiors I've seen in any electric vehicle to this point, and I'm not one for fluffy, plush interiors.

People have been trying to poo-poo it, but I have a couple of thoughts. First, Mercedes said it will have a 200-mile range. I think that is a conservative estimate, much like what GM stated for the Bolt EV prior to EPA testing. In fact, I'm guessing the EQC will have a similar EPA-rated range to the Bolt EV. Second, I've heard people say that it will "only" have 100 kW charging. I think the more important number to focus on is the average charge rate to 80%, which will be about 85 kW. According to Mercedes, that's 10% to 80% in 40 minutes.

 

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in the end I am really not sure why we need such complex dash and center consoles. When I looked at my choices I checked out the Bolt, watched videos on the Kona and even the Jaguar, and it really came down to three points. First being I wanted the concept car simplicity that the interior of the III offered, second I wanted a sedan, and finally I saw three hundred miles as the minimum mild/warm weather range.

Now I think Mercedes and other European brands will do just fine because badges mean something to many people. Just like with pickup trucks there are people who will buy only one brand or have brands they will never buy.
 

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in the end I am really not sure why we need such complex dash and center consoles. When I looked at my choices I checked out the Bolt, watched videos on the Kona and even the Jaguar, and it really came down to three points. First being I wanted the concept car simplicity that the interior of the III offered, second I wanted a sedan, and finally I saw three hundred miles as the minimum mild/warm weather range.
Tesla is definitely benefiting right now from being the only automaker still focusing on sedans. I think people are reading too much into the high amount of interest in SUVs. To me, GM is making a big mistake by not prioritizing a Malibu EV. Even with just a 70 kWh battery, a Malibu EV would easily hit 300 miles of EPA range.

As I see it, the only only real competition the Model 3 will have for the next couple of years is the Ioniq electric. The ~40 kWh (unsure of the exact capacity) Ioniq electric will be positioned very well against the $35,000 Model 3 when they are both finally released. The Ioniq will have similar range, great efficiency, decent charging rates, and close to $10,000 lower overall price after incentives.

On the horizon, we have the EQA, but nothing else that I know has been announced. Of course, the EQA will more directly compete with the >$45,000 Model 3.
 

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As someone who's owned an ML320 a long time ago, I did not find the EQC exterior all that visually appealing. Doesn't say MB to me. I hope the range estimate is conservative, because 200 miles seems just borderline acceptable. I'd think a 100kWh battery would be the minimum acceptable size for an SUV.
 

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For a vehicle in the $80-$100,000 price range, the 70 kWh usable battery pack is too small for a CUV (even a compact one like the EQC). The vehicle looks sleek and aerodynamic, but the weight is really high. Mercedes is known for excessive weight - see their previous Tesla-powered EV, the B250e, which also was very inefficient. These German CUVs (Audi will appear first, and BMW later) will be very expensive and limited in sales. I think most of these will be around 10k-30k sales/year. Compare this to 300k for the Model 3 and upcoming Model Y, which may have even bigger demand.
 
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