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I never had a key less FOB, I keep losing my keys. If the volt is going to have a key less FOB. Can you make a FOB that make nose when I push a "loss button" from the car. I would like a credit card shape so that I could put it in my wallet. When I enter the car and it won't start, I know that I forgot my wallet. :p
 

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I never had a key less FOB, I keep losing my keys. If the volt is going to have a key less FOB. Can you make a FOB that make nose when I push a "loss button" from the car. I would like a credit card shape so that I could put it in my wallet. When I enter the car and it won't start, I know that I forgot my wallet. :p
Now there is a DMAN good idea!!! My new 08 Camry Hybrid is keyless, and the FOBs are big $$$ to replace I'm told. Having a locater button in the car would be a GREAT thing.

Not so sure on the credit card thing, I do use the buttons on the FOB to openthe trunk and the doors for others while we are walking to the car.

But the keyless thing is cool, the Camry will unlock just my door when I reach for it, and unlock all 4 doors when I reach for the passenger side door. I have only had the car for a month and I still look for the ignition a few times a week when I'm getting out of the car. I just consider it a learning curve :rolleyes:

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Keyless entry systems worry me. They are like garage door openers, a huge security risk. I'm not sure how secure they are currently, but if they are regular RFID, I would rather not have it. At this time, I won't get an RFID enabled CC because they are just too easy to hack:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/102/C14871/

I would just rather have a key and alarm system at this time. Fool proof, not in the least. However, I believe RFID would make it much easier to steal my car than good old fashioned key and alarm system.

On the other hand, if they do something along the lines of finger print scanner, that might be better depending on how it is implemented.

Anything can be bypassed though, my only concern is making it too easy for the thieves.
 

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Keyless entry systems worry me. They are like garage door openers, a huge security risk. I'm not sure how secure they are currently, but if they are regular RFID, I would rather not have it. At this time, I won't get an RFID enabled CC because they are just too easy to hack:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/102/C14871/

I would just rather have a key and alarm system at this time. Fool proof, not in the least. However, I believe RFID would make it much easier to steal my car than good old fashioned key and alarm system.

On the other hand, if they do something along the lines of finger print scanner, that might be better depending on how it is implemented.

Anything can be bypassed though, my only concern is making it too easy for the thieves.
I honestly don't know the tech behind the keyless flob I have. But I've spent the better part of the last YEAR in contract/vendor negotiation for a large RFID system. If the flob is using 13.56mhz RFID then you're right, I wouldn't trust it to far either.

The "read range"on the doors would support the theroy. However the range on the ignition seems a little better than what the standard RFID readers supports @ 13.56mhz.

I'll have to do a little research and testing on it but I'll find out :D
 

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On the other hand, if they do something along the lines of finger print scanner, that might be better depending on how it is implemented.
When it comes to vehicles with keyless systems like this most that I have seen can be disabled and the car can be operated conventionally.

My concern with any sort of finger print scanner, espcially on the outside of a vehicle to unlock the doors, is that up here in the winter people are not going to want to take their hands out of their gloves to unlock the door (same can be said when you are in the car to start it I guess.)
 

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Now there is a DMAN good idea!!! My new 08 Camry Hybrid is keyless, and the FOBs are big $$$ to replace I'm told. Having a locater button in the car would be a GREAT thing.
You got that right! I bought a Mercedes built Sprinter van for my business and it came with a key fob that interfaces with a computer chip and so has a digital code as well as a standard mechanical key. I was told by the dealer that the fob costs about $200 and when you get a new one, you have to take the vehicle to the dealer to have the key synched with the van for about another $50. If you lose both keys that are given to you when you get the van, then you have to have it towed to the dealer. Traditional locksmiths are of no use as they don't have the equipment, software or codes to make a duplicate or get your van running again.

I suspect that the Volt will be similar except that it will no doubt have Onstar as an option. This service can unlock and start your car remotely... if you pay for the service.
 
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