[CCIE]

It looks like Quick Charge Power released the JDapter they've been talking about for a while. It's supposed to allow any J1772-equipped EV to use Tesla chargers (not Superchargers). It's expensive, but may have a use for some people.

https://jdapter.quickchargepower.com/

Anyone try it yet?

 

[edk-austin]

wow. $399!?

http://shop.quickchargepower.com/JDapter-Stub-Tesla-Charge-Station-Adaptor-JDPTRSTB.htm

 

[PH2]

This is Tony's intermediary version until the molded version is complete. He has essentially taken a Tesla socket and wired it to a J1772 plug, which is why it costs more (as they are wired by hand).

 

[CCIE]

Any ETA on the molded version and what it's likely to cost? The original page for the kickstarter (which never happened) said $199.

 

[Raymondjram]

That is complete useless here because there is no public Tesla chargers except for the Model S owners who may have installed one at their garages. All the registered public and private charge stations are J1772 Level 1 and 2 (see PlugShare.com), including mine.

 

[11715]

That is complete useless here because there is no public Tesla chargers except for the Model S owners who may have installed one at their garages. All the registered public and private charge stations are J1772 Level 1 and 2 (see PlugShare.com), including mine.

There are destination chargers.

 

[Sheldon]

There are destination chargers.

Tesla has done a great job getting hotels to sign up for destination charging. Bolt's, Volts, and future longer range EV's might want to use overnight hotel charging. Sometimes they have parallel J1772 chargers, sometimes not. Sometimes they have wall sockets. But a Bolt realistically needs more than 5 miles per hour charging so you really need a 240v wall socket or J1772.

 

[saghost]

That is complete useless here because there is no public Tesla chargers except for the Model S owners who may have installed one at their garages. All the registered public and private charge stations are J1772 Level 1 and 2 (see PlugShare.com), including mine.

You mean aside from the thousands of destination chargers that Tesla has partnered with hotels, restaurants, parks, and others to install across the country?

 

[DonC]

Tesla has done a great job getting hotels to sign up for destination charging. Bolt's, Volts, and future longer range EV's might want to use overnight hotel charging. Sometimes they have parallel J1772 chargers, sometimes not. Sometimes they have wall sockets. But a Bolt realistically needs more than 5 miles per hour charging so you really need a 240v wall socket or J1772.

+1. This. Many hotels where I am have destination chargers. Usually there is also a J1772 charger but more options is always good.

 

[Norton]

Tesla has done a great job getting hotels to sign up for destination charging. Bolt's, Volts, and future longer range EV's might want to use overnight hotel charging. Sometimes they have parallel J1772 chargers, sometimes not. ....

But wouldn't you risk upsetting a Tesla driver if they find another brand of EV using their proprietary plug?

 

[bjrosen]

Has anyone ever seen an L2 destination charger that didn't have a J1772? If so where? It doesn't make any sense that any hotel that saw fit to install EVSEs would install EVSEs that couldn't accommodate every EV on the road.

 

[saghost]

Has anyone ever seen an L2 destination charger that didn't have a J1772? If so where? It doesn't make any sense that any hotel that saw fit to install EVSEs would install EVSEs that couldn't accommodate every EV on the road.

I'm not 100% sure why it happens - limited space, limited power, trying to attract a specific clientele, or something else that hasn't occurred to me - but it happens.

I've seen a few on plugshare, and I was at a restaurant in the middle of nowhere in the Smoky mountains that had only one charge station - a Tesla HPWC.

 

[Sheldon]

Has anyone ever seen an L2 destination charger that didn't have a J1772? If so where? It doesn't make any sense that any hotel that saw fit to install EVSEs would install EVSEs that couldn't accommodate every EV on the road.

Yes, the three hotels on South Padre Island, TX with EV chargers have Tesla destination chargers but no J1772 chargers. Last weekend, we stayed at one of the hotels, which also has 120v and 240v outlets, and our Volt drove 180 electric miles on the way there, driving nearby, and on the way back home to Austin Tx.

The only pure EV that can get to South Padre Island today is a Tesla. Its simply way too far away for a Leaf, an i3, or a Bolt. San Antonio is the nearest big city, and its 290 miles away! The nearest CSS/DCFC superchargers is 330 miles away! Tesla added two superchargers between San Antonio and South Padre Island in the past six months; before that South Padre Island was EV inaccessible even for a Tesla. There are a lot of local L2 chargers in San Antonio, and the other big cities in Texas, but between the big cities in Texas, its an EV desert out here.

 

[11715]

But wouldn't you risk upsetting a Tesla driver if they find another brand of EV using their proprietary plug?

No. The charger is not owned by Tesla but the business.

 

[CCIE]

Has anyone ever seen an L2 destination charger that didn't have a J1772? If so where? It doesn't make any sense that any hotel that saw fit to install EVSEs would install EVSEs that couldn't accommodate every EV on the road.

I've seen locations where there are only Tesla destination chargers. I've seen locations where the J1772 is in use but the Tesla charger is free. And, I've seen locations where the J1772 is broken and the Tesla charger works.

Point is, it's good to have options. Not worth it to me for $400. But, I'd be interested at $200.

 

[PH2]

Has anyone ever seen an L2 destination charger that didn't have a J1772? If so where? It doesn't make any sense that any hotel that saw fit to install EVSEs would install EVSEs that couldn't accommodate every EV on the road.

Yes, plenty. Tesla works with the destination charger site owner and subsidizes its installation. Tesla provides the EVSE at no charge and allows a 'stipend' to cover or help with covering the installation costs. If an owner decides that they don't want the expense of installing more than one, then they simply install one. Tesla doesn't provide the J1772 EVSE unless you install two of their proprietary EVSEs. It's all about ROI.

 

[PH2]

Any ETA on the molded version and what it's likely to cost? The original page for the kickstarter (which never happened) said $199.

Not really, last I heard he was focusing on finishing R&D/product delivery on Tesla Roadster L3 charging before he goes back to the adapter.

 

[CCIE]

Not really, last I heard he was focusing on finishing R&D/product delivery on Tesla Roadster L3 charging before he goes back to the adapter.

I'm surprised there are enough roadsters out there to make that worth doing. Though I guess the people that own them have money to blow.

If it were me I'd focus on mass producing the molded Tesla-J1772 adapter. At $50-100 he could sell them in volume. Not that I have the skill to do it, but it's just a format adapter with pass-thru wiring. No logic. Seems like a factory in china could pump them out dirt cheap.

 

[PH2]

I'm surprised there are enough roadsters out there to make that worth doing. Though I guess the people that own them have money to blow...

About as many as there were Gen2 Rav4 EVs (~2500), but his L3 mods sell for $3k or better.

 

[bro1999]

$399 is too much. $199 and I'd probably be in.