[Qinsp]

I pulled the trigger on a 2019 Photon Red Jaguar i-Pace EV400 First Edition. Still keeping the Day One reservation for the Tesla Model 3 though. I wonder which will get here first?

Order # 1454xxxx
Order Date 6/1/18
Last Amendment Possible 6/15/18
Build Date 7/13/18
Delivery Date 9/21/18
Accepted Handover 9/26/18
Planned Handover 9/26/18

 

[Bill Step]

congrats,,good looking car.

 

[Mister Dave]

Not going to share the price and options?

I'm putting my money on the Jag arriving first. If I'm not mistaken it has to do the slow boat from the UK trip too, yes?

 

[Qinsp]

Not going to share the price and options?

I'm putting my money on the Jag arriving first. If I'm not mistaken it has to do the slow boat from the UK trip too, yes?

If you gotta ask...

Strange Trivia - It's made in Austria. Like the KTM. So it takes awhile to get to California.

Seriously, the First Edition is $85,900 + $995 dest, and comes as the highest trim. Think CT6 Platinum.
I can add 22" wheels (meh) or get gray paint (WTF???) for more money, but that's it. The Photon Red only comes on the 2019 First Edition cars then it will be discontinued.

So I stuck with the Photon Red, 20" wheels, and light color interior. It's sunny/hot here.

The list of equipment is sort of long.

It's easier to list what it doesn't have.

Rear seats do not recline and lack A/C, heat only. The F-Pace can have reclining seats like the Caddy, but the EV400 doesn't.
The all glass roof does not open, but it's thermally insulated like the other glass.
You must keep your hand on the wheel now and then or the autosteering turns off like a Tesla.
No trailer hitch option.
AEB works to 99 mph.
No automatic lane change, but it does have the mirror icon warnings and will try to stop you from hitting a car.
No Limited Slip Differentials, but uses torque vectoring.
It can cross 20" of water with the air suspension all the way up, over 9" of ground clearance.
It can charge at 100kW to 80% in 40 minutes according to the latest info.
0-60mph quicker than the Model X 75 or 100, and a lot cheaper when equipped the same.
They let the press take them around a road race course, but with only a 124mph top speed and nearly 4800lb, that will be interesting to try.
It lacks night vision, but does have bird's eye view. You put on a rubber bracelet, then lock everything in the car. The bracelet will unlock the car.
It automatically lowers itself at 65mph for better economy. It has an Eco mode and a heat pump.
You can set the shock dampening, steering feel, throttle response, the seats, the mirrors, the 825w stereo, to your personal taste and it will know it's you by your cellphone bluetooth.
It has some Land Rover tech for off-road abilities. A crawling cruise control, traction enhancement AdSR, anti-rollover logic, speed limits based on ride height setting.
And it has a just smooth cruise mode with on-the-fly shock dampening based on road conditions.
etc.

 

[Qinsp]

Not going to share the price and options?

I'm putting my money on the Jag arriving first. If I'm not mistaken it has to do the slow boat from the UK trip too, yes?

June 1st was the line in the sand. It takes over 4 weeks to buy one, so the "200,000 cars" excuse is blown out of the water.

I will defer, but post the date. Then check to see how long other invites take to receive. Can they beat Sept? Unless something changes dramatically, no. Either there must be a mass exodus of reservation holders, massive ramp up, or a focus on California.

 

[Mister Dave]

Sounds like it's worth every penny of the price tag. I'm very impressed, especially with the active suspension details and the 0-60 time.

 

[Belgin]

Ironically, you know it will be more reliable and put together better than the Model 3.

 

[Qinsp]

Sounds like it's worth every penny of the price tag. I'm very impressed, especially with the active suspension details and the 0-60 time.

It's cheaper than most luxury Euro 'SUV's (eh?) that have similar acceleration and features. IIRC, if I try to build the Porsche Turbo Macan to the i-Pace FE spec, the Porsche is $100,000 and 0.1s slower to 60mph. It's $10k cheaper than a similar Tesla, but has some goodies the Tesla does not. But the Tesla has Supercharging, which is important to people who travel interstate.

The iPace vs the Model X:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX2rDCYoLeo

And I should get $10,450 off in rebates. But no mfr discount possible since I'm ordering it.

But Daddy wants a quicker car. Not another sports car, but I'll track it and AutoX it for kicks.

They even have a racing series for these, the eTrophy:

https://www.jaguarusa.com/electrification/i-pace-e-trophy/index.html

 

[Mister Dave]

The iPace vs the Model X:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX2rDCYoLeo

LOL - Kanaan gets smoked again. It's getting to be a habit (though he did well at Indy for a while last weekend).

 

[O'Dell]

Congrats, it looks like a fine car. The i-Pace would make a good stable mate for my F-Type, but I'm not willing to spend the money to get one currently, especially with a less than two year old Volt in the garage. Maybe a used one is in the future instead of a Bolt when I sell the Volt.

 

[Qinsp]

We are only retiring the 2013 Volt, so our 3 EVs will two Volts and a Jaguar. Eventually perhaps add a Model 3.

 

[Guest]

Retire one of three Volts for a iJag. Fair deal. I'd take that deal but it would plunge too far into my stock portfolio.

 

[edk-austin]

I don't recall seeing, does the I-PACE do regenerative braking with brake pedal AND accelerator (like GM), or only on accelerator (like Tesla)?

 

[Shivetya]

Ironically, you know it will be more reliable and put together better than the Model 3.

The major brands debuting actual EVs you can buy will hurt Tesla far more than their production woes. The real danger of their production foul ups was giving the competition time to get to market. There are many brand loyalist who would buy an EV but never from any other company other than their favorite. These brands have real history and brand presence.

 

[Qinsp]

I don't recall seeing, does the I-PACE do regenerative braking with brake pedal AND accelerator (like GM), or only on accelerator (like Tesla)?

That is a good question. All I know at this point is you can set it for one pedal driving (stops when you lift the accelerator) like the Bolt.

 

[edk-austin]

you can set it for one pedal driving (stops when you lift the accelerator) like the Bolt.

Yes, but also like Tesla, you have to change the regen rate on the touch screen (I-PACE website). Not going to do that dynamically while driving.

From what I can see, I like what Jaguar has done. I'd probably buy it over Model S or X. But I'm still looking for a $40 - $50K next EV.

 

[jbakerjonathan]

If you gotta ask...

Strange Trivia - It's made in Austria. Like the KTM. So it takes awhile to get to California.

Seriously, the First Edition is $85,900 + $995 dest, and comes as the highest trim. Think CT6 Platinum.
I can add 22" wheels (meh) or get gray paint (WTF???) for more money, but that's it. The Photon Red only comes on the 2019 First Edition cars then it will be discontinued.

So I stuck with the Photon Red, 20" wheels, and light color interior. It's sunny/hot here.

The list of equipment is sort of long.

It's easier to list what it doesn't have.

Rear seats do not recline and lack A/C, heat only. The F-Pace can have reclining seats like the Caddy, but the EV400 doesn't.
The all glass roof does not open, but it's thermally insulated like the other glass.
You must keep your hand on the wheel now and then or the autosteering turns off like a Tesla.
No trailer hitch option.
AEB works to 99 mph.
No automatic lane change, but it does have the mirror icon warnings and will try to stop you from hitting a car.
No Limited Slip Differentials, but uses torque vectoring.
It can cross 20" of water with the air suspension all the way up, over 9" of ground clearance.
It can charge at 100kW to 80% in 40 minutes according to the latest info.
0-60mph quicker than the Model X 75 or 100, and a lot cheaper when equipped the same.
They let the press take them around a road race course, but with only a 124mph top speed and nearly 4800lb, that will be interesting to try.
It lacks night vision, but does have bird's eye view. You put on a rubber bracelet, then lock everything in the car. The bracelet will unlock the car.
It automatically lowers itself at 65mph for better economy. It has an Eco mode and a heat pump.
You can set the shock dampening, steering feel, throttle response, the seats, the mirrors, the 825w stereo, to your personal taste and it will know it's you by your cellphone bluetooth.
It has some Land Rover tech for off-road abilities. A crawling cruise control, traction enhancement AdSR, anti-rollover logic, speed limits based on ride height setting.
And it has a just smooth cruise mode with on-the-fly shock dampening based on road conditions.
etc.

Of all the goodies your car is going to have, the one that makes me drool (call me crazy) is the crawling cruise control. I just googled it and I would love to have the ability to set the cruise control for the speeds zones around schools. Alas, the Volt bottoms out at 24-25 mph and zones around my neighborhood are as low as 20 mph.

 

[Qinsp]

The trailer hitch thing might be up in the air.

The British owner's manual says it has a towing capacity of 1,650 lb. But they do not list a hitch. But they also don't say anything about the included EVSE either. So they are still working out the documentation and features.

British Owner's Manual: http://www.ownerinfo.jaguar.com/model/4K/2019/document/29937_en_GBR

Unlike Tesla, the EV400 had 1.5 million miles of testing in 200 cars by December 2017. Not up to GM standards, but not the "Let The Buyer Beware" philosophy either.

 

[Qinsp]

Of all the goodies your car is going to have, the one that makes me drool (call me crazy) is the crawling cruise control. I just googled it and I would love to have the ability to set the cruise control for the speeds zones around schools. Alas, the Volt bottoms out at 24-25 mph and zones around my neighborhood are as low as 20 mph.

Where that tech is really handy is on crappy roads. Your foot bounces with the car, and you want to drive slow with good steering control. Absolutely a great feature for really steep dirt/icy roads.

 

[scottf200]

Of all the goodies your car is going to have, the one that makes me drool (call me crazy) is the crawling cruise control. I just googled it and I would love to have the ability to set the cruise control for the speeds zones around schools. Alas, the Volt bottoms out at 24-25 mph and zones around my neighborhood are as low as 20 mph.

What is the common lower cruise control speed limit on most cars? Our Tesla is 18 mph. As you pointed out when you hit some school zones that is nice as sometimes they are on a 40-45 mile road in some suburbs.