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I would love it. Much better looking than a Tesla.

Also, why not take the 2.0 T version of the Camaro and add a 150 HP+ electric motor to it. The only marketing trick is to make sure it is faster than the V8 model, whatever that takes. It is important to win over mainstream buyers.
 

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I know, RIGHT? Yet, Ed Wellburn, recently retired design chief at GM said that the Buick Avista show car they
bandied about during auto show season would not make it to production - nor a version of it.

Doesn't it just make perfect sense that - with Tesla taking 400,000 pre-orders for Model 3... That GM, or any other
car company could profit from making EXCITING EVs? You know, ones that get your pulse racing by looking
at it ( i.e.: sexy cars instead of gas stingy econo ones ).

Not taking away anything from our beloved Volt... We think it's sexy in it's own right , because it looks sporty
and pinches the pennies - and keeps polar bears alive... But the mainstream car-buying world buys on
emotion...And Tesla has that wrapped up with it's Ferrari-beating 0-60s and all the free press. I'm saying
GM and other legacy automakers should slam out a couple of sexy, fast EVs and that Buick Avista would
be perfect --- to "halo" the brand, at the very minimum.

Tesla just wants you, me , your sister, mother and all their neighbors to drive electric - we get it...And I,
for one, applaud Musk and Co. greatly. Companies like Ford, Chrysler, Hyundai, Nissan and Toyota just
want to move metal at a high profit margin. OK - we get that also... GM ( Mary Barra and others ) have
also been pretty vocal that they'd like to show that little Silicon Valley upstart a thing 'r too, and they're
willing to go to court to try to snuff 'em...So why not partake in some good ole American competition
and put out a couple sexy, expensive and FAST Tesla alternatives?.....Right?
 

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GM knows how to build sexy cars. Camaro, Corvette, CTS-V, ATS-V, ELR come to mind. Even a '70 Riv.

An electric ELR would get me to trade sooner. A 300mi CT6-EV with fast charging would do it as well.
 

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I'd SERIOUSLY consider it.

If GM isn't going to build out a supercharger network, I'd need to see this with a Voltec range extender. The private charging infrastructure around here is non-existent. It would be VERY hard to justify if I'm limited to no further than 100 miles from my house.
 

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"The Bolt is a small crossover SUV that was designed with urban environments and ride-hailing services in mind."

You have to believe GM is working on a sexy EV for Buick. Fast and sexy and expensive can sell an EV, says Tesla. Slow, sexy and expensive doesn't sell says Cadillac.
 

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The Bolt is built on GM's new Class B EV-specific BEV II platform. The intent is that this platform can be used for other BEV configurations, which might include a small hatchback or sedan. Use the same basic skateboard base design, battery pack, FWD drive train. You can stick whatever body and interior you want on it. That's the power of the automotive platform design concept. But unless GM invests $$$$$ to design/develop s a larger BEV platform, any BEV in the immediate future will be more of a compact Model 3 type than a mid-sized Model S type. Given the markets GM targets, they probably will stick to compact size BEV's (class B) for the immediate future.
 

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From the article and the articles linked, it's just not convincing that they're going to build a sporty EV there...It speculates that it could be Buick EV; Buicks sell better in China and China has expensive tariffs for imports...It would then seem that it might make more sense to build a Buick EV in China...

The article states that the Sonic will be built there until 2019 & suggests "wake of Tesla's stunning success with Model 3 preorders" so while if the GM decision was made to make a TM3 competitor I would imagine that the earliest they could start producing it would be after the Sonic, 2019...Not to say it won't happen but I think they may produce another ICE vehicle there in the meantime...

The only other EVs that we know about the E-Ray...I hope it gets produced and is a fun car but doubt it would be as affordable as the Bolt...
 

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The Bolt is built on GM's new Class B EV-specific BEV II platform. The intent is that this platform can be used for other BEV configurations, which might include a small hatchback or sedan. Use the same basic skateboard base design, battery pack, FWD drive train. You can stick whatever body and interior you want on it. That's the power of the automotive platform design concept. But unless GM invests $$$$$ to design/develop s a larger BEV platform, any BEV in the immediate future will be more of a compact Model 3 type than a mid-sized Model S type. Given the markets GM targets, they probably will stick to compact size BEV's (class B) for the immediate future.
Very interesting take...Overall question, not just to you but everyone, realistically how long would it take for GM to produce a sedan (or coupe) body onto the Bolt's skateboard platform? Who knows, maybe they'll throw a curve ball and they have already been working on one for years...
 

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I'd rather see an EREV Buick Envision. Definitely more practical than a BEV. Most likely though this would be imported from China.

Can't get too excited about a super sporty sedan. If you have Tesla performance and features you'll end up with a Tesla price. Very limited market.

The Bolt is built on GM's new Class B EV-specific BEV II platform. The intent is that this platform can be used for other BEV configurations, which might include a small hatchback or sedan. Use the same basic skateboard base design, battery pack, FWD drive train. You can stick whatever body and interior you want on it. That's the power of the automotive platform design concept. But unless GM invests $$$$$ to design/develop s a larger BEV platform, any BEV in the immediate future will be more of a compact Model 3 type than a mid-sized Model S type. Given the markets GM targets, they probably will stick to compact size BEV's (class B) for the immediate future.
The Buick Envision is built on the same platform as the Volt (D2xx) and the CT6 with a EREV type drive train is built on the Omega platform. Might be more possibilities.
 

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My instinct is that the Volt and the EREV concept will not be expanded beyond its current compact format. It just takes too many kWh of battery to support the motor HP required to provide a full 0-100 mph EV experience with decent acceleration at sizes much larger than the Volt. That's why the CT6 is not a pure EREV. Too heavy and too much acceleration expectation for a 18.4 kWh battery to support, so you have to have reduced acceleration/max speed if you go pure EV, or bring on the engine to assist for full performance. Yes, they could expand the Omega platform, transfer the RWD Voltec drive train to the full size PU/SUV line. Lots of places to go. I'm thinking by 2020, GM will have electrified products wearing every badge and every GM dealer in the country will be selling electrified products.

Wouldn't be surprised if GM does build out a 4-door Voltish hatch-back on the BEV platform. Imagine what the Volt experience would be with a skateboard base, 200 HP, and no battery hump! They could match or beat Model 3 specs with a fraction of the development cost, as the Bolt covered a lot of it. Bolts for the families/taxis/Lyfts/delivery services of the world. 200 mile Volt EV for the drivers of the world.
 

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I think the EREV concept will definitely expand to trucks.
BEV trucks just don't work for hauling heavy loads or towing for medium to long distances unless you get into really high costs.
EVEV trucks will allow light duty jobs to be done on electric, and then seamlessly switch over to gas.

I just really hope that GM can get their dealers on board sooner rather than later.
 

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I think the EREV concept will definitely expand to trucks.
BEV trucks just don't work for hauling heavy loads or towing for medium to long distances unless you get into really high costs.
EVEV trucks will allow light duty jobs to be done on electric, and then seamlessly switch over to gas.

I just really hope that GM can get their dealers on board sooner rather than later.
Already in production: http://www.viamotors.com/

Keith
 
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