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If I’m reading this right the mi / kWh for today’s trip was almost 5. In fact for the trip down it was 5.07 mi / kWh. If I’m not mistaken that’s pretty amazing electric efficiency.
For gas, that’s 49 mpg , and if you consider I still had 2 miles range left that I generated with gas, it’s 52 mpg. Also not too shabby.
 

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Watch the MPGe as you drive as well, can give you a good rolling estimate of how well you're doing with efficiency. I know anything over 106 MPGe and I'm beating the EPA range.
 

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If I’m reading this right the mi / kWh for today’s trip was almost 5. In fact for the trip down it was 5.07 mi / kWh. If I’m not mistaken that’s pretty amazing electric efficiency.
And for gas, that’s 49 mpg , and if you consider I still had 2 miles range left that I generated with gas, it’s 52 mpg. Also not too shabby.
The gen2 Volt is a great car. Its a little bit sporty, very efficient both on battery and gasoline, and for many drivers, it burns very little gasoline. But the gas engine is there anytime you need to go beyond your electric range.
 

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Watch the MPGe as you drive as well, can give you a good rolling estimate of how well you're doing with efficiency. I know anything over 106 MPGe and I'm beating the EPA range.
I see 135 MPGe there pretty often

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We have a 2016 Volt Premier purchased new in July 2016, my wife's daily driver, and mine a 2010 Prius.

The Volt is approaching 45,000 miles with nearly 15,000 miles just on gas. Volstats.net state since new average mpg on gas (cs) is 48.29 mpg since new. Overall mpg since new over 146 mpg.

Now last week with two fishing trips down to Tillamook Oregon via Highway 101 along the coast for 126 miles roundtrip for each trip.

Readout on dash; electric miles driven over each trip: 126.1 miles / 74.4 electric with 14.6 KWH used / 51.7 miles on gas with .89 gal's used for dash reading of 57.4 mpg / the other trip: 126.0 miles / 72.3 electric with 14.1 KWH used / 53.7 miles on gas with .86 gal's used for 61.9 mpg. Gasoline used is Costco regular 87 octane.

The EPA stated for this vehicle is 53 miles electric range and 42 mpg on gas.

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The Volt is totally legit! Always intrigued me, but I didn't know what I was missing. My wifey summed it up with, "I really like this car."
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We have a 2016 Volt Premier purchased new in July 2016, my wife's daily driver, and mine a 2010 Prius.
Having both, do you have a preference of one vs. the other?
 

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I prefer driving the Volt, when I can. Its more comfortable, more responsive as well. MPG with the Prius is averaging about 53 mpg, this is calculated not by the dash readout which the Prius is always off by over reporting 3-4 mpg or so, if the Prius reads 57 mpg it actually is 53 or 54 mpg calculated.

The Volt cost far less per mile than the Prius as well. The Volt dash readout is 100% accurate it seems. The Volt gets as good or better mpg (Volt gas only mpg's) than the Prius for the same trip as the dash readout will show. Cost for a full charge is only $1.83 and that is with all cost included which is calculated by total electric bill divided by kwh used.
 

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push the white mpg square on the left for the alternate readout. The car also gives credit for regenerative power pumped back into the battery during gas operation and keeps that on the gasoline ledger until that surplus is used up in ev propulsion.
 

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At about 25k miles, our '17's lifetime MPGe is 125. I've regularly seen over 6 miles per kWh in local 50-mile round trips. We see EV ranges from the high 50s in the depths of our Wisconsin winters to the low 80s in our summers. We still have 1/3 of our third tank of gas left. This car is awesome...
 

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Yesterday my wife and I went fishing, drove our 2016 Volt Premier, and took a nice ride down to the Trask River Park, located along the Trask River in Tillamook Oregon. Trip via Highway 101.

Returned home from the Trip: Dash readout, 126.2 miles / 71.9 miles electric with 14.4 KWH used / 54.3 miles on gas (87 reg. octane) .92 gal's used for 58.3 mpg.

Fuel cost for entire trip: .92 gals @ $3.159/ gal.= $2.91 (Costco brand reg. 87 octane gas with 10% Ethanol)
Electric cost (16 KWH) (included 2 KWH for charging Loss) 16 KWH x $.114 / KWH = $1.83 (true cost KWH = total bill divided by KWH used)

Total Fuel & Electric Cost for trip = $4.74 / cost per mile= $.038

I don't know of any plug in hybrid type vehicles today that weigh loaded with two people, fishing gear, cooler, camera gear etc. with an est. gross veh weight of 4,000 lbs that could do that.

The closest competitor to the Volt is the Honda plug in Clarity. I don't believe that it could go that far on electric and get the same MPG's on gas for the remainder of the trip.

Also the Clarity is not a true electric vehicle even with a full charge. Floor it and the gas motor will start for added propulsion, this will not occur with the Volt....
 

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Two years anniversary with my 2017 Volt last Saturday at 56,000 total miles, 54,124 electric miles
The 2017 Chevy Volt with the highest electric mileage in VoltStats.

96.7% electric
127 MPGe Lifetime, 1,389 mpg lifetime
driving profile: 80% freeway, 10% back roads, 10% city streets.

Best scores: 101 MPGcs for 166 miles, 386 MPGe for 200 miles for a single charge, 499 electric miles for a single day, 33K miles for one tank of gas, 9,750 miles without gas (except for EMM).
Ranked #3 in VoltStats Hall Of Fame.


https://www.voltstats.net/Stats/GroupDetails/291

The VoltStats MPGe is an estimate based on the assumption that the 2017 Volt only gets 106 MPGe on electric mode, but here's my real MPGe:

00127MPGeVolt by Joe Real, on Flickr
 

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I see that you've achieved this marvel in California. I only have nearly half your total miles, but I have to feel pretty good with a lifetime MPGe of 125 on my DD '17 Volt...having driven through approximately 2.25 Wisconsin winters while doing it. As we all know, weather is everything with these cars.
 

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What’s my MPGe
Rough estimate: somewhere between 104.3 and 129.1 MPGe for the trip, for a car that’s window sticker rated at 98 MPGe.

Keep in mind that the concept of Miles per Gallon Equivalent does not include regen in the calculations, only wall to wheel electricity. You can’t really include the energy content of the regen in your MPGe mileage calculations if you don’t know how much regen was created during the trip and the charging losses associated with creating the regen and putting it into the battery.

Your screen shows 13.0 kWh Used, which suggests a partial recharge, making it more difficult to calculate the electrical Ge portion of the equation. A window sticker rating of 38 ev miles, 98 MPGe indicates that when the battery is fully charged, it contains 38/98 = 0.39 Ge of energy equivalent fuel. If the amount from the wall is ~120% of the kWh Used, then this trip used ~15.6 kWh from the wall plug.

ev fuel used: 15.6 kWh/(33.7 kWh/Ge) = 0.46 Ge

fuel used to travel 102.4 miles: ev + gas = 0.46 + 0.33 = 0.79 Ge

102.4 miles/0.79 Ge = 129.14 MPGe

Of course, if, say, 20 of those miles were done using regen created during the drive (doesn’t really matter if gas or electric miles), then the 0.79 Ge of energy equivalent fuel would have been used to drive only 82.4 miles, or 104.3 MPGe.
 

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So, what car is that? My Volt was EPA-rated at 106 MPGe...and I don't recognize that graphic, either.
 

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The graphic is the energy screen on a Gen 1 Volt.
 

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Jeez...that looks pretty cool. It was kind of familiar, yet totally different.
 

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Our 2016 Volt continues to amaze me as one of the most fuel efficient vehicles I have ever owned and I have owned several VW Diesels, the first being a new 1977 VW Rabbitt diesel, and in gas vehicles a 1994 Honda Civic VX model, the high mpg model seldom seen.

When one considers the cost of electric, here in Oregon where we live, the cost per KWH delivered is .114. This is the true cost calculated by taking the entire cost of your electric bill, the amount you actually pay, and divide that by KWH used. Recent trips have been averaging over 55 mpg just on gas and near or at 70 miles on electric.

So to drive 70 miles with what we pay for electric is 16 KWH X .114 / KWH = $1.83 (note 2 extra KWH included for charging losses)
Gas only mpg has been averaging well over 55 mpg but will just call a 130 mile round trip we averaged 55 mpg on gas and 70 miles on electric. Electric cost $1.83 / gas cost 60 miles divided by 55 mpg = 1.09 gal's. Cost for 87 octane gas at local Costco; $3.059 /gal; 1.09 gal X $3.059= $3.34 for gas. Total cost for trip= $5.17.

Fuel, electric and gasoline cost per mile= $.0398 / mile for that 130 mile roundtrip.

So what other car you can buy right now in the US can match that, and the Volt is a car that weighs nearly or at 4,000 lbs with two full grown adults with camping, fishing, other gear etc?
 
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