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While walking back from moving my Volt from a charging spot I see a white mini-van in one of the EV charging spaces outside my building. On the van's windshield is a ticket. Inside the van's windshield was a temporary parking permit. So, not only does the Colorado School of Mines ticket you if you don't have an appropriate parking permit, they'll also ticket you if you're not charging while in one of the six EV charging spots on campus. Since it's a State owned University that's a State parking ticket.
 

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Finally, some municipality or organization who administers tickets to ICErs. Now if they could also do the same for Coal Rollers, even while in motion driving down the street... :)
 

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Well, this story is an interesting contrast to something that happened in Toronto last week. An American tourist parked his Nissan Sentra in an EV space in a downtown office tower while attending a rock concert. Forgot where he had parked. His father, pissed off that his idiot son had lost the car, went on social media offering a reward for the discovery of the car. And sure enough, people went out looking and found the car.
In Toronto, the owner did not get a ticket, was granted a reprieve from paying the accumulating parking costs, and got a free bluetooth device to help him find his lost car the next time.
 

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That kid and father should've never gotten their accumulated parking fines. Losing a car is very difficult. I'm finding it hard to believe you just "lose" a car when you parked it. Was the kid drunk or high? Doesnt' matter, shouldn't have had the parking costs waived nor get a free bluetooth device. You're just rewarding idiot behavior so the next wall-flower idiot will think, "if I appeal to everyone with my first world sob story, I'll be fine!" Had I been the father, I would've just said, "sorry son, you're not coming home until you find that car."

I didn't think it was a hard-fast stereotype that Canadians are nice. This example just floors me. Kid got lucky he was an idiot in such a forgiving country.

Poor bastard is about to find out what an EV spot is.
Yep. Hopefully they're level headed and just take it as a lesson to pay attention next time or not take shortcuts in life.
 

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Here is the article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/22/teenager-loses-car-toronto-three-days-metallica-gig/

The teenage driver was from Syracuse, NY. He attended a concert in Toronto, it was his first time in that city. He parked in an underground garage, one of dozens of similar downtown underground parking facilities. The only local landmarks Mr. Strickland, the driver, could recall were a Starbucks, a construction site, what might have been a bank and a strange spiral outdoor structure. Evidently, that pretty much describes a good part of downtown Toronto. He should have written the address on the parking ticket or dropped a pin on the map using his phone. The fact that he ICE'd an EV charging space is unfortunate. That is probably one of the reasons it took so long to locate the vehicle, no one was looking for his Nissan Versa sedan in the EV parking spaces.

Too bad he was not driving a GM vehicle. He could have located the vehicle with the help of the MyChevrolet app. His story would make a great commercial for Chevrolet. I'd put him a Volt, have him attend the next Metallica concert in Toronto. Park in the same garage in the same EV parking space, this time charge the Volt. After the concert, he could use the MyChevrolet App to help him get back to the Volt.

[Update] There is more to the story, Mr. Strickland, the teenage driver had lost his Nissan Versa once before attending a different concert. That time he dropped his spare key next to the Versa. Someone took the Versa for a short ride, he later found the Versa undamaged. Seriously, if you had a teenage son with a history of losing his car, would you want him driving to Canada to attend a Metallica concert, alone?
 

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I've had recurring nightmares about parking in a weird city and panicking about trying to remember where I parked. Then comes the chase where a mob is after me and I can't run fast enough to get away. Then I'm eating something and having a mouthful of teeth come loose. Finally, there's a basketball game where I miraculously discover the ability to levitate. Is that weird or what?
 

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Dream analysis

I've had recurring nightmares about parking in a weird city and panicking about trying to remember where I parked. Then comes the chase where a mob is after me and I can't run fast enough to get away. Then I'm eating something and having a mouthful of teeth come loose. Finally, there's a basketball game where I miraculously discover the ability to levitate. Is that weird or what'/
Lol. I am sure it all means something.
 

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After a concert.
"Did you have a good time?".
"It's 2am".
 

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You left out the part where you're naked in public. Even Tuvok had that dream.
Nope, never had that dream. Lots of dreams with naked members of the opposite sex, ironically people I know. It makes seeing them during the week amazingly strange.

One more recurring dream, showing up for a college final after blowing off the entire semester of classes and feeling screwed.

Back to topic before steverino splits this into a new dreams thread... teenagers are generally very inexperienced at life, especially when parents take care of everything for the kids to the point they haven't learned anything in life. I heard lots of stories about my daughter's college friends who were clueless about all sorts of things. I could see how this could happen to the best of us. Especially in big cities with mega parking complexes.
 

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Personally, when I'm parking in an unfamiliar area, I drop a "pin" to indicate where I parked. It might not get me exactly where I parked but certainly close enough that I can find the car. I do however realize most people think they will remember but after a night out, sometimes you don't always remember exactly.

Fun related story, back in 2000, I went to NYC with some friends to see a concert. We drove up from Philly and met up with other friends from NYC. On the way back, I was to ride with one of the NYC guys back to Philly. We were dropped off near where he THOUGHT he parked. Long story short, we walked the streets of lower Manhattan for 2 hours looking for his car! I had no idea other than a "white Saturn". Of course smartphones and GPS weren't available at the time but it definitely taught me that even if your in a city your familiar with, you can still easily lose a car.
 

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My wife and I lost our car for 3 hours once in a Seattle hospital complex. We must have walked at least 5 miles visiting all of their many garages looking for a parking area called "Birch" (they were all named after trees). All the attendants swore there was no such area in their system. Finally we found one who knew where it was. I suggested they put a map in each garage (there were quite a few of them) showing the locations of all the parking areas, but they probably haven't. We would have been fine if we had taken the ticket with us instead of leaving it in the car.
 

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My wife and I lost our car for 3 hours once in a Seattle hospital complex. We must have walked at least 5 miles visiting all of their many garages looking for a parking area called "Birch" (they were all named after trees). All the attendants swore there was no such area in their system. Finally we found one who knew where it was. I suggested they put a map in each garage (there were quite a few of them) showing the locations of all the parking areas, but they probably haven't. We would have been fine if we had taken the ticket with us instead of leaving it in the car.
I had a similar scare parking many levels below ground at Millenium park in Chicago. Plus, since it was deep underground, there was no way to use GPS to figure out where I am, where I was, etc.
 

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I am surprised that they also did not give him $10 million dollars for his inconvenience. Sounds stupid? Well they gave a ex Gitmo terrorist who killed and maimed US troops $10 million just because he was 15 years old at the time. Most Canadians are just as outraged at this as the US.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3581350/canadian-government-has-paid-omar-khadr-10-5m-source/

Well, this story is an interesting contrast to something that happened in Toronto last week. An American tourist parked his Nissan Sentra in an EV space in a downtown office tower while attending a rock concert. Forgot where he had parked. His father, pissed off that his idiot son had lost the car, went on social media offering a reward for the discovery of the car. And sure enough, people went out looking and found the car.
In Toronto, the owner did not get a ticket, was granted a reprieve from paying the accumulating parking costs, and got a free bluetooth device to help him find his lost car the next time.
 

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While walking back from moving my Volt from a charging spot I see a white mini-van in one of the EV charging spaces outside my building. On the van's windshield is a ticket. Inside the van's windshield was a temporary parking permit. So, not only does the Colorado School of Mines ticket you if you don't have an appropriate parking permit, they'll also ticket you if you're not charging while in one of the six EV charging spots on campus. Since it's a State owned University that's a State parking ticket.
Is the electric charging free at the those electric parking only spots, or do you have to pay. I can see that if you have to pay with vehicle charging there would be a financial loss for the company in charge of the electric charging stations. Not so much if its a 100% free station, even though I agree with the owner or responsible of that vehicle getting a warning or violation citation for parking.
 

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I see your point alfon from an immediate profit opportunity however it's more about convenience for EV drivers and typically a way to draw in potential customers. Most businesses don't install charging to make a quick buck. In fact, most free charging locations are doing so in the hopes that its one less thing on your mind to worry about how much you're paying to park and charge but rather entice you to spend more time shopping because you're getting a "free charge". I think it's great that they're cracking down on these offenders. IMO it's no different than non-handicap persons using designated parking without they permit/placard as I realize some handicap persons have hidden problems. In fact, I do get upset when I go to one of my local grocers and they have a section of "clean air vehicle parking" and every time I go it's full of suburbans, trucks and other SUV's, none of which are even flex fuel much less any form of hybrid. It's not that they're any closer or "better" so these folks aren't gaining any sort of advantage by parking there.
 

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Here is the article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/22/teenager-loses-car-toronto-three-days-metallica-gig/
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[Update] There is more to the story, Mr. Strickland, the teenage driver had lost his Nissan Versa once before attending a different concert. That time he dropped his spare key next to the Versa. Someone took the Versa for a short ride, he later found the Versa undamaged. Seriously, if you had a teenage son with a history of losing his car, would you want him driving to Canada to attend a Metallica concert, alone?
Thank you for the article. It just depresses me to see people like this. Youth often gets a 2nd pass at times but this youth needs to start developing some common sense survival skills. I grew up without GPS and just Mapquest, and I was grateful! No reading and planning my trip on a tiny ass map that's about to disintegrate in my hands from frequent folding in a cramped car cabin. Getting lost is not an option, and when I went for my first interview about 2hr drive away, I made damn sure I planned my route with alternates and practiced the route on the weekend and the weekday so I wouldn't eatup my pre-interview arrival time.

This kid should've at minimum taken notes on how they left their parked car to get to the concert. He had a freakin' phone. That's easy mode. Even without cellular network, he could've just easily made notes of where he turned from and such.

Probably was too busy "frontin'" with his bros showing how manly he is to bother figuring how to get home to daddy.
 

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Is the electric charging free at the those electric parking only spots, or do you have to pay. I can see that if you have to pay with vehicle charging there would be a financial loss for the company in charge of the electric charging stations. Not so much if its a 100% free station, even though I agree with the owner or responsible of that vehicle getting a warning or violation citation for parking.
We can charge for free with a limit of four hours per day. However we have to pay to park anywhere on campus and there are different levels of parking, which is why I haven't been using the stations right outside the building I work in. That changes on Tuesday - I paid for the reserved parking starting on the 1st.
 
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