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Quite harsh :(

I am hoping we see rapid improvements in the next model that uses Ultium packs. This looks more like a rushed first attempt.
Let's see here...

1 Hummer battery = 246 kWh = 13 Gen 2 Volts

Complete idiocy when it comes to the distribution of resources.
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Quite harsh :(

I am hoping we see rapid improvements in the next model that uses Ultium packs. This looks more like a rushed first attempt.
This was a Gen 1 Hummer battery pack. GM is apparently on Gen 3. These two guys are pretty much clueless when it comes to engineering - their take is that if it isn't Tesla it's not done right.
I have my own opinion of the Hummer. I have an interest in it because I am thinking seriously of getting a Silverado EV. The Hummer is a show car that isn't meant for the masses. It is over-engineered in almost every way. It's huge and heavy and cumbersome and lots of other things. I'd hate to have to park it in the city. Also, what obermd said is very true. I noticed the battery teardown before it was mentioned here and recognized it as an effort to discredit the Hummer and the Ultium platform in general. There is also an effort to discredit all electric vehicles.
I am hoping we see rapid improvements in the next model that uses Ultium packs. This looks more like a rushed first attempt.
Both the Hummer EV and the Cybertruck started development in 2019. The Hummer started deliveries in 2021. Where is the Cybertruck after 5 years? It's coming says Musk...

“Normally, a vehicle program with any manufacturer takes around four years,” said Hummer EV chief engineer Oppenheiser. “We were asked to do it in just over two.” The vehicle was based on a completely new platform as well.

Choices were made by GM engineers to meet that 2 year time frame. Note that the two Munro guys didn't point that out. Huh, wonder why? Almost every comment was based on a mental "insert Tesla here" viewpoint from what I could tell. I'm not saying the observations were wrong, just that they ignored the two year development window. That requirement makes a HUGE difference in how the engineering was done. Duh!

The tear down spent little if any time examining the cost/benefits of the choices made by the engineers at the time based on a two year window. In comparison, the Cybertruck has been in development for going on 5 years.

So these two Munro guys can bash the battery pack as over-engineered, too many pieces and welds using steel instead of custom casting, etc. but the vehicle was produced in record time and the GM refinement process will take it's normal course.
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This was a Gen 1 Hummer battery pack. GM is apparently on Gen 3. These two guys are pretty much clueless when it comes to engineering - their take is that if it isn't Tesla it's not done right.
It’s great to hear GM is making improvements quickly.
As for your critique, all these guys do is engineering. And if you think they are Tesla fanboys, take a look at some of their early reviews of the Model 3, far more brutal than this one.
It’s great to hear GM is making improvements quickly.
As for your critique, all these guys do is engineering. And if you think they are Tesla fanboys, take a look at some of their early reviews of the Model 3, far more brutal than this one.
I watched their video and noticed they rarely ever asked "why" GM did something the way they did. For instance, the "assembled" battery cage very likely uses the same parts for every single Ultium vehicle, from a 50 KWh model to the 200 KWh models. They didn't even consider this. They also flat out missed the why's of several other observations. Thus my conclusion that these two at least, are not automotive engineers. Sandy Munro is and he asks the whys during his breakdowns.
they rarely ever asked "why" GM did something the way they did.
If they had, the answer would have been, "Given the limited development time, obviously compromises had to be made by GM in terms of materials and production methods" instead of "so many parts and welds and steel, that's unusual!".

They missed the development time frame context entirely.

Did they even know this was a two years and done project? If they did, they are being disingenuous at best, purposefully misleading at worst.
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the one thing that striked me about this is the tabs on the cell look small to handle 100 amps dc
cant tell how thick they are though
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