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Then you are a dick !! I will unplug your charger and do not give a rat ass if you like it or not.
From my view this is a reason why the charging infrastucture needs to have lockable chargers. You should be able to park your vehicle and charge as long as you need or wish. If the issue is not having enough of charging points then this should be addressed instead of generating some Code of Conduct between EV drivers.

Certain incentives can be put in place to discourage the improper use. For example parking without plugging could equal to 50$ ticket. Plugging without intention to pay could equal to 100$ ticket (plugin without swiping membership/credit card just to fool the cops). Plugging after full charge could equal to 3x charge rate. And so forth. These penalties might need some tought tho :)
 

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Generally, speaking, I don't know that I agree with a punitive system, or if one exists, it should be enforced on individual business/site level. Just as some businesses have a 20 minute parking section (though rarely enforced, they may tow cars parked there for too long), I think most EV parking spots should have a time limit. Generally, 2-4 hours depending on the site or business. If it is employee parking, there is no excuse for a lack of communication, in my opinion. Either install more charging stations, or have the impacted employees meet to establish a policy.
 

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From my view this is a reason why the charging infrastucture needs to have lockable chargers.
what's the difference between:

finished charging and has a lockable charger. so other can access it.
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parking in the spot (preventing other from charging), not charging at all.

you are okay with both ?
 

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what's the difference between:

finished charging and has a lockable charger. so other can access it.
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parking in the spot (preventing other from charging), not charging at all.

you are okay with both ?
Definately inconvenient for the others, just like a full parking lot or double parking. It happens.

Now the real question is why there is 3000 gas car parking places and 4 EV charging places on the parking lot. Would you thow a fit for one person charging a car if the situation would be reversed? I wouldn't like to manage with the problem but instead solve it.

Yell at the owned of the parking place instead of the poor chap who happens to have outdated car.
 

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To tell if the car is still charging you have to look through car windows at the dashboard to see if there is a red electric plug symbol lit. If it is lit then it is still charging. If it is off then it is not charging.
 

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Hi, from someone I know that has a Th!nk here is their telltale:

The Th!nk has 2 green lights on top of the dash. When both are lit and linked, charging is in progress. If only one is lit, charging is complete. The plug release button on a Th!nk does nothing. It is only a mechanical release and has no effect on the charge current. There is no way to turn off the current in mid-charge on a Th!nk except to turn off the EVSE. Unplugging a Th!nk mid-charge can draw an arc and damage the connectors of both the car and the EVSE.
 

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A quick update: On the new (2012-2014) RAV4 EV's, the two amber lights stay on for only a few minutes after a full charge. They then both turn off. A RAV4 EV is therefore charging if only one light is blinking (with the other either off or solid on). If both are off or both are on the charge is complete. If they blink in an alternate fashion (one on, other off, then switch), the car is in a delayed charge mode and probably shouldn't be at a public station.
 

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The whole public charging thing for a Volt baffles me. If there is any competition with a full blown EV, it seems inconsiderate to compete for space. In the event you don't get the charge....the 4 banger gets you home. The poor lady in the Leaf is at risk of being stranded.
I'm not responsible for what other people drive. Charging stations are for cars that can use them. Only rules set by owners of stations apply. My Volt texts me when my charge is interrupted. The perp and I would then have a nice adult conversation.
 

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FIAT 500e

The 5 red LED bars on the dashboard provide information on charging and scheduled charging.

For the instructions below, number LEDs 1 to 5, 5 being closest to the steering wheel and 1 farthest away.

While fully charged and connected, all LEDs are solid on.

While charging, zero or more contiguous LEDs, starting 1 are on to indicate the status of the battery (the more LEDs lit, the more charged is the battery) and then the next one (i.e. LED 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5) is blinking.

While connected and scheduled to charge but not yet charging (e.g. on a timer), there is a "chasing" LED, going 1->5 and wrap back to 1. I.e. 1 blinks on-off once, then 2 blinks on-off once ... then 5 blinks on-off, then 1 and so on.
 

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I updated the list to include the BMW i3 as well as the FIAT 500e. (see Post #1 in this thread).

If you don't see an EV on here that you would like to see, let me know. Better yet, tell us how to tell when charging is complete and I'll update the listing.
 

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GM reversed the meaning of the charge indicator light for 2016 Volt!

With the 2016 Volt, GM reversed the meanings of the Charge Status Indicator light(!) Flashing green now indicates that it is charging (the number of flashes increases as the battery charges) then is solid green when fully charged.

IMO this would be a reasonable system, if solid green hadn't previously meant "charging". But now solid green can have opposite meanings, depending on the model year. GM should have used a different color for charging.

One way to know the difference: the 2016 Volt Charge Status Indicator light is square; on earlier models it's round.
 

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GM reversed the meaning of the charge indicator light for 2016 Volt!

Update for the list: With the 2016 Volt, GM reversed the meaning of the Charge Status Indicator light(!) Flashing green now indicates that it is charging (the number of flashes increases as the battery charges) then it's solid green when fully charged. One way to know the difference: the 2016 Volt Charge Status Indicator light is square; on earlier models it's round.

IMO this would be a reasonable system, if solid green hadn't previously meant "charging". But now solid green can have opposite meanings, depending on the model year. GM should have used a different color for charging.
 

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Update list: for 2016 Volt GM reversed the meaning of Charge Status Indicator light

Update for the list: With the 2016 Volt, GM reversed the meaning of the Charge Status Indicator light(!) Flashing green now indicates that it is charging (the number of flashes increases as the battery charges) then it's solid green when fully charged. One way to know the difference: the 2016 Volt Charge Status Indicator light is square; on earlier models it's round.

IMO this would be a reasonable system, if solid green hadn't previously meant "charging". But now solid green can have opposite meanings, depending on the model year. GM should have used a different color for charging.
 

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Am I missing something?

Public charge stations (at least chargepoint) display when the charging is over.

Is there a reason we cannot rely on that information on the Charge station to know when the charge is over, and would need to know the car full charge display logic?
 

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Am I missing something?

Public charge stations (at least chargepoint) display when the charging is over.

Is there a reason we cannot rely on that information on the Charge station to know when the charge is over, and would need to know the car full charge display logic?
That's a pretty reasonable statement and it most cases that would seem to be the best way to determine if the car is still charging or not. Unfortunately, that's not always possible. The Chargepoint station at the mall near me has an LCD screen that is pretty much unreadable during daylight hours. So it's next to impossible to tell if the car is still charging.
 
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