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I’m in San Diego area and have been shopping. I definitely want a new Gen 2 Volt with adaptive cruise control. New so I can get the tax credit and rebate. I don’t really care about any other features. Maybe color a bit - a couple of colors I’m not sure I could deal with. Anyway seems like the best deals so far are most easily found on a Autotrader. A bit of a pain searching for ACC on there but I did find one a couple hours away for $33118 (after a couple of incentives they list, including getting a GM loan inbelieve)...not sure whether i’d be eligible for any others. Active duty military if that has an incentive.
Anyway is there any website you all know of that lists demo/inventory models or anything? Seems like every listing or resource (Costco, TrueCar) forces me to go through the salesman and therefore the usual grind trying to find out their true rock bottom price. Hate it. I did see a new 2017 for a bit under $30k but it’s and LT with no ACC - I don’t think any LT’s have ACC.
THANKS!

PS - I’m ok with maybe 500 mile radius or so.
 

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I’m in San Diego area and have been shopping. I definitely want a new Gen 2 Volt with adaptive cruise control. New so I can get the tax credit and rebate. I don’t really care about any other features. Maybe color a bit - a couple of colors I’m not sure I could deal with. Anyway seems like the best deals so far are most easily found on a Autotrader. A bit of a pain searching for ACC on there but I did find one a couple hours away for $33118 (after a couple of incentives they list, including getting a GM loan inbelieve)...not sure whether i’d be eligible for any others. Active duty military if that has an incentive.
Anyway is there any website you all know of that lists demo/inventory models or anything? Seems like every listing or resource (Costco, TrueCar) forces me to go through the salesman and therefore the usual grind trying to find out their true rock bottom price. Hate it. I did see a new 2017 for a bit under $30k but it’s and LT with no ACC - I don’t think any LT’s have ACC.
THANKS!

PS - I’m ok with maybe 500 mile radius or so.
Carvana maybe? Your best option may be to find a 2018 Volt Premier with DC, DC2 and ACC once the 2019 model year Volt starts to ship sometime in September or October. The only truly significant enhancement on the 2019 Volt will be the 7.2kW onboard charging capability that will be standard on the Premier and optional on the LT. ACC will continue to be offered, as an option, only on the 2019 Premier.
 

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I prefer cars.com to autotrader because autotrader requires you to go through their "premium" (i.e. pushed) listings first before getting to the better deals further below. You should also check out "autolist.com" which lets you sort by "time on market" in the search results -- very helpful for finding a Volt that's been sitting around for a while.

I'll usually do a search sorted by lowest price first. I'll also try to find leftovers sitting on lots. Easier chance on a '17 now than an '18--although sometimes there are better factory incentives on the current model year.

I would also find a cheaper Volt far away--similarly equipped--and then walk into a local dealer to see if they would beat the price. So far, I've actually HAD to drive far away to get the best deal, so no one has bit yet.

Unfortunately, there is not much more magic to it with the Volt over any other car--pick your price, find your car, and stick to your guns at the dealership. Also, if you're going to finance, don't spend all that time on price and then get hosed in the "finance" office by bad deals on interest--bring a competing/better offer.
 

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Financially, you would do better to get a slightly used Volt that has had the rebate & credits applied and discounted from the selling price. As long as it is low mileage and has your options it could save you lots of money and fill your needs. There are many folks that are getting their TM3's so there should be lots for sale in the used category. I got a super deal on a lightly used 2017 with extended warranty & snow tires. Given, you won't need the snow tires :). Had to fly to get it but well worth it and the trip home allowed me to get used to the Volt. Good luck either way as the Volt is a Great Car.
 

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Financially, you would do better to get a slightly used Volt that has had the rebate & credits applied and discounted from the selling price. As long as it is low mileage and has your options it could save you lots of money and fill your needs. I got a super deal on a lightly used 2017 with extended warranty. Had to fly to get it but well worth it and the trip home allowed me to get used to the Volt.
This was my approach as well, but mainly because I would not get much of the federal rebate

For a great deal, you probably do have to be willing to travel. We flew to pick up our 2017 and then drove it 1,000 miles home. Made a mini vacation out of it and spent a few days with relatives. Got the same car for $4K less than one closer to home and that dealer refused to come down a dime

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@Don M We did almost the same as you and saved about $20K CAD by purchasing a used (17) one. Also traveled about 1600 miles to get back home. Visited friends and relatives along the way and spent only $91 on gas. Gotta love the Volt. No rebates or incentives are available where we live.
 

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Found a 2017 Demo for 22k and they pay off the existing loan on my 2015 for 13K. Tempting...... I doubt they will come down anymore.

Demo's or slightly used is the way to go.
 

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Demo sounds great because I believe you can still get the tax rebate & state credit on those, but i need to find one with ACC. I did happen to find a 2017 demo on autotrader but alas, it's just an LT.

So, to find demo's is the only way to look at autolist.com, cars.com, or autotrader and just sort through them one by one? I was using keyword feature on autotrader, typing "adaptive" and that helped...also sort lowest price first.

Oh, and would you still click "New" in your search to find a demo/inventory model? The only other options appear to be "used" or "CPO".

I would totally road trip to bag a good deal. Will widen my search.
 

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Demo sounds great because I believe you can still get the tax rebate & state credit on those, but i need to find one with ACC. I did happen to find a 2017 demo on autotrader but alas, it's just an LT.

So, to find demo's is the only way to look at autolist.com, cars.com, or autotrader and just sort through them one by one? I was using keyword feature on autotrader, typing "adaptive" and that helped...also sort lowest price first.

Oh, and would you still click "New" in your search to find a demo/inventory model? The only other options appear to be "used" or "CPO".

I would totally road trip to bag a good deal. Will widen my search.
Hello... Usually you need to call to find demo's. I know of one in FL that has a number of Demo's. Near Tampa
Too far from CA
 

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1) Use autolist App.
2) Apply filters for condition to "New"
3) Search for 2017-2018 models.
4) Set search radius to 500 miles.
5) Sort results by time on lot -- longest first. Do not pay attention to prices. They are typically MSRP but there are some who update it.
6) Pick a few in colors and option combos you like. Call dealers and tell them you're willing to pay x for this Volt. Tell them you know they need to move it, and price will only continue to drop with 2019s arriving soon with power seats and fast charger. Get the deal in writing and confirm they haven't taken tax credit. Go visit the dealer and buy your car.
7) Private sale your current car unless it's really worth almost nothing and you can talk the dealer into giving you ~$3K for it as the cherry on top to the deal.

Extra step -- Because you're in CA and I don't know the answer to this, see if there are any restrictions on buying the car out of state and getting the state credit. I got my state credit in PA despite buying the car in NJ, but learned about some requirements (registering car in PA within 10 days of purchase) that took some extra legwork.
 

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Like you, I only wanted a car with Adaptive Cruise, but using the keyword 'Adaptive' in your searches probably means you're missing lots of cars you would like to buy because most dealers don't think to include that term in their listing . . . . many dealers don't even seem to know if a car has it or not - Discovering that dealers don't really know what they have for sale isn't new

Looking at the pictures can help - ACC equipped cars look different from the front than non equipped cars, so that's a better way to search than hoping the dealer has listed every accessory the car has in his ads

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Like you, I only wanted a car with Adaptive Cruise, but using the keyword 'Adaptive' in your searches probably means you're missing lots of cars you would like to buy because most dealers don't think to include that term in their listing . . . . many dealers don't even seem to know if a car has it or not - Discovering that dealers don't really know what they have for sale isn't new

Looking at the pictures can help - ACC equipped cars look different from the front than non equipped cars, so that's a better way to search than hoping the dealer has listed every accessory the car has in his ads

Don
Agree with this. I might still filter by trim, as ACC is only available on Premier trim.

The ACC-equipped models will have two diagonal lines framing the Chevy bowtie on the grill upper plastic trim piece. Models without ACC will not have these lines.

See this forum for an example. It's pretty easy to pick out in dealer photos. Very difficult to figure out on an options sheet.
https://gm-volt.com/forum/showthrea...aptive-cruise-control-now-available-for-order
 

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My 2017 Volt Premier w/ACC has a lower center grille piece that is beige in color not chrome finished. That is how I always spot other Volts that have ACC.
 

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Nice, mjones21 !! You've cracked the code. I played around with that some. There's 2 at the same dealer about 400 miles from me. I could fly up there for $80 and enjoy driving my new Volt back down. The cheaper one's only $30,218. There are multiple others that say "Accepting Offers"...but none have the ACC grill.

ACC equipped cars look different from the front
This is a life saver. I can usually tell from the first thumbnail pic now. Thanks!
So far, though, they seem to be getting the description of features correct (at least regarding "adaptive") on all these websites.

So, just over $30k for a Volt with ACC is a significant improvement. What might you all offer that might actually be accepted on one of these new/demo/inventory cars, knowing one's listed at $30,217? $28k? Less?
There's one listed "new" that's actually a 2016, says it's been on the market for over 700 days - but alas, no ACC.

Y'all are awesome!
 

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No '16's had ACC and even the '17's didn't have it until mid-year or so - Cars manufactured before May or June didn't have it, which is why more '17 Premiers don't have it than do

$30K is a pretty decent price, IMO. The sticker on my car was more than $41K. If it's not your 'must have' color, you could offer $28K and just walk away if they won't agree with that. Over the years, I've had my best luck making my offer in person, handing them a check made out to the dealer for 'my number'. It's harder for them to turn it down when they're staring at the check . . . . if there' still a reasonable profit in it for them, I find they usually cave in :p

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There are multiple others that say "Accepting Offers"...but none have the ACC grill.


This is a life saver. I can usually tell from the first thumbnail pic now. Thanks!
At least until you get to some clown dealer that doesn't realize that's a key factor and reuses some photos from a previous car in the same color.... :D
 

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I know of one in FL that has a number of Demo's. Near Tampa
Too far from CA
Not necessarily! We have family out there too. If the deal was right.... I'd love to give him a holler.

until you get to some clown dealer that doesn't realize that's a key factor and reuses some photos from a previous car
Doh! Wouldn't surprise me. These salesmen I've met so far just don't seem to care.

It's harder for them to turn it down when they're staring at the check
I think I like the color actually. I'll try to get the deal in writing first...then maybe bring a check for $2k less and and have a blank check in my back pocket in case it's close.
 

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Nice, mjones21 !! You've cracked the code. I played around with that some. There's 2 at the same dealer about 400 miles from me. I could fly up there for $80 and enjoy driving my new Volt back down. The cheaper one's only $30,218. There are multiple others that say "Accepting Offers"...but none have the ACC grill.


This is a life saver. I can usually tell from the first thumbnail pic now. Thanks!
So far, though, they seem to be getting the description of features correct (at least regarding "adaptive") on all these websites.

So, just over $30k for a Volt with ACC is a significant improvement. What might you all offer that might actually be accepted on one of these new/demo/inventory cars, knowing one's listed at $30,217? $28k? Less?
There's one listed "new" that's actually a 2016, says it's been on the market for over 700 days - but alas, no ACC.

Y'all are awesome!
That's an excellent deal -- the best I've seen on an ACC Premier -- if you still get to claim the Federal Tax Credit and any local incentives. If not, it's not that great of a deal and pretty close to the market rate. Make sure its not being sold as certified pre-owned and that the dealer has not taken title to the car or placed it in service. It's hard to get this firmed up, but its worth getting a Carfax as a pre-screening measure. The salesmen will lie about this.

For context, I paid $29K before incentives for my 17 Premier without ACC, which I felt was a great deal.

You might be able to get them down to $28K or so. Somewhat doubtful. But worth a shot. Even at $30, you're getting a $41K car for $22.5K after the credit. That's like Honda Fit with leather type money, and let me tell you, the Volt drives much nicer than that.
 
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