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A 3 row SUV PHEV. My 2017 GMC Acadia/Volt could be the last GM vehicles I buy. Hoping the specs are as good as I dream of. 40 to 50 miles AER will do the trick for me.
What if the Honda Pilot PHEV only has an estimated range of 19 miles, as is the case with the Volvo XC90 T8 PHEV? My neighbor has the XC90 PHEV. He showed me on his phone app that overall the XC90 was delivering ~35 MPG. He has taken some long road trips so the overall fuel economy is weighted towards using gas.
 

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What if the Honda Pilot PHEV only has an estimated range of 19 miles, as is the case with the Volvo XC90 T8 PHEV? My neighbor has the XC90 PHEV. He showed me on his phone app that overall the XC90 was delivering ~35 MPG. He has taken some long road trips so the overall fuel economy is weighted towards using gas.
If it can still tow 5000lbs, then 19-20 miles would be fine for me. We take the Volt for most of the commuting. Our Pathfinder currently handles road trips (where the difference between 20 and 40 miles is negligible) or short trips the the store (far less than 20 miles).
 

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The easiest way for Honda to do this would be to put in something similar to the Clarity, possibly with the same battery. That would give it an AER well below 40, but it would probably be 20 or better, which would be quite respectable for a vehicle of this size, and would be enough to be competitive with other plug in options. Considering how popular the midsize SUV/CUV segment is, and also the Honda brand, this looks like it could really expand the acceptance of PHEV technology.
 

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2019 Honda Pilot PHEV Spied For First Time

Inside EVs said:
But far more important changes should happen under the hood, where the Pilot will gain a hybrid powertrain shared with the Odyssey. The system comes from the latest Accord Hybrid and includes an efficient 2.0-liter Atkinson-cycle gasoline engine and an electric motor for a combined output of 212 horsepower (158 kilowatts) and 232 pound-feet (314 Newton-meters) of torque. Power is sent directly to the front wheels without a transmission.
Auto News said:
The Pilot's hybrid setup is expected to be a version of the two-motor hybrid powertrain used in the 2018 Accord Hybrid.
I suspect you'll be underwhelmed (combined output of 212 horsepower - maybe?). Keeping in mind that all of this is speculation based on a charge door seen in a spy photo of a prototype/test mule.
 

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2019 Honda Pilot PHEV Spied For First Time




I suspect you'll be underwhelmed (combined output of 212 horsepower - maybe?). Keeping in mind that all of this is speculation based on a charge door seen in a spy photo of a prototype/test mule.
You missed a key word in your bolt text: "The Pilot's hybrid setup is expected to be a version of the two-motor hybrid powertrain used in the 2018 Accord Hybrid."

That could simply mean the same architecture, with a larger electric motor.

I agree, it's all speculation, but trends seem to be pointing towards electrified CUVs (GM excluded).
 

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You missed a key word in your bolt text: "The Pilot's hybrid setup is expected to be a version of the two-motor hybrid powertrain used in the 2018 Accord Hybrid."

That could simply mean the same architecture, with a larger electric motor.

I agree, it's all speculation, but trends seem to be pointing towards electrified CUVs (GM excluded).
Or a second ~200 hp motor driving the rear wheels in addition, which would put it right in line with the faster EV competition of the pack is up to the task.
 

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What if the Honda Pilot PHEV only has an estimated range of 19 miles, as is the case with the Volvo XC90 T8 PHEV? My neighbor has the XC90 PHEV. He showed me on his phone app that overall the XC90 was delivering ~35 MPG. He has taken some long road trips so the overall fuel economy is weighted towards using gas.
19 EPA rated miles would be a joke. I think Gen I Volt mileage is appropriate for ANY new PHEV going forward. I owned 2 Gen I Volt's and managed to drive them over 92% of the time off the battery. So that's my yard stick. But for a 6/7 seat full size SUV I could bend some. So maybe 25 miles AER could get me to dump my 2017 Acadia.
 

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Honda SUVs are mainly people movers, not real U's (utility vehicles). My guess on towing capacity for the PHEV would be somewhere between 0 - 1000 lbs.
 
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