[wantavolt]

[edit] The PHEV specifically

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-latest/best-buy-awards-electric-hybrid-car/2000011407/

 

[firehawk72]

The Clarity, although subjectively ugly, could be a boon for Plug Ins. Large car, seats five, reasonably priced, safety standard (Honda Sense)...why buy a Volt?

 

[telveer]

I think Clarity PHEV and Pacifica Hybrid are the best new entrants in a while ... finally - we have decent and affordable mid-size and family size PEVs to choose from. However, Clarity PHEV is not available yet, while Pacifica Hybrid is available.

As to comparisons between Clarity PHEV and Volt, I will wait for pricing to be announced. If Clarity PHEV is priced like the Volt, Volt may have a lot of trouble .. and if the current administration does not mess with federal EV credit, Clarity PHEV will qualify for the credit far longer than Volt.

 

[viking79]

Clarity is $34k to $37.5k according to that KBB report, pre credits. So same as the Volt, but in my opinion the Clarity Touring is better equipped than Volt Premier and mainly an Accord instead of Civic sized car.

 

[eric_n_dfw]

Anxiously awaiting these to show up on DFW area lots to test drive. As I've said before in other threads, the only thing that could keep me from wanting one would be if the ICE has to come on a lot like my Fusion Energi did.

Styling wise, I'm not a fan of the grill and rear wheel treatment but i still think it looks better than the current model Prius (Prime or Hybrid).

 

[rhodomel]

GM licensed or shared the Voltec to Honda. The Honda Clarity might sell better because of the brand name.
The Honda Clarity has a poorer acceleration than Gen 2 Volt.

 

[viking79]

GM licensed or shared the Voltec to Honda. The Honda Clarity might sell better because of the brand name.
The Honda Clarity has a poorer acceleration than Gen 2 Volt.

Not much, and it is a true 5 passenger. It sounds like it has 90 kw in EV only, 135 kw in EV+Gas. Performance should be around 8 seconds to 60, which is plenty quick for a family hauler. The Volt would still be nice for those with only 4 passenger needs or want the hatch or a smaller car.

As to licensing, it is unclear if it is GM or not technology. Honda/GM have shared tech before, like the Honda Passport, but the editor at Green Car Reports claimed it looked very different and appeared to be Honda tech.

Truth be told, the Volt really only sells well when it is being discounted, so real world price on the Volt would probably match its fewer features and smaller stature vs the Clarity.

 

[eric_n_dfw]

GM licensed or shared the Voltec to Honda. The Honda Clarity might sell better because of the brand name.
The Honda Clarity has a poorer acceleration than Gen 2 Volt.

I think the fact that it is reportedly more comfortable, is better equipped and costs the same or less will make it sell better (the Honda name won't hurt either).

... not to mention that fact that Honda might actually advertise the thing! (although the current HFC Clarity floating head ads are creepy!)

 

[DonC]

I think the fact that it is reportedly more comfortable, is better equipped and costs the same or less will make it sell better (the Honda name won't hurt either).

I agree that more room is a big improvement. You're likely right about the brand but I will say the Volt has had fewer problems than the two Hondas I've had (Acuras but same difference). In any event, it's a welcome addition. More choices are better.

Does show how much of a lead GM has in the electric arena. The Volt showed up in 2010. The Clarity is a worthy contender but it's seven years later and GM is moving on from Voltec specific models, leaving Voltec for hybrids and BEVs as its zero emissions entries.

NOTE: I see it also has power seats with memory. That's nice. I wonder if the mirrors are part of the memory system.

 

[Arcanox]

I would be surprised if Honda used GM technology...Honda's usually the pioneer in alternative-fuel vehicles, and has invented several generations of hybrid/EV drivetrains.

I know personally I would be 10 times more likely to buy a Honda than another Chevy purely on a basis of reliability track record. I can't say that I'm a fan of the Clarity's design, but it could be a lot worse. The inside looks a lot better than the outside.

 

[eric_n_dfw]

NOTE: I see it also has power seats with memory. That's nice. I wonder if the mirrors are part of the memory system.

I've never seen one without the other on any other car.

 

[eric_n_dfw]

I would be surprised if Honda used GM technology...Honda's usually the pioneer in alternative-fuel vehicles, and has invented several generations of hybrid/EV drivetrains.

Articles from 2016 seem to jive with the narrative that they are sharing tech. i.e. https://insideevs.com/breaking-general-motors-honda-partner-develop-future-plug-hybrids/

I doubt you'd see a GM part under a Honda hood, but rather design concepts that might be similar based on such a partnership.

 

[Arcanox]

Articles from 2016 seem to jive with the narrative that they are sharing tech. i.e. https://insideevs.com/breaking-general-motors-honda-partner-develop-future-plug-hybrids/

I doubt you'd see a GM part under a Honda hood, but rather design concepts that might be similar based on such a partnership.

Potentially. I know they would never use GM parts, Honda's smarter than that

I know that Ford/Lincoln/Mercury used Toyota's hybrid system design, hence why the MKZh my dad drives works exactly like the Highlander Hybrid I used to drive.

 

[joezzhou]

All models of Honda Clarity include ACC, a.k.a Honda Sensing. Not the case for Volt.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2018-honda-clarity-plug-hybrid-starts-34290/

 

[Upper5Percent]

Make sure you call it the Honda Clarity Electric...
https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-electric#mpge

because there is a Honda Clarity Fuel Cell version...
https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-fuel-cell

Both are LEASE ONLY at this time...

 

[eric_n_dfw]

Make sure you call it the Honda Clarity Electric...
https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-electric#mpge

because there is a Honda Clarity Fuel Cell version...

https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity-fuel-cell

Both are LEASE ONLY at this time...

Not sure what your point is. This thread is about the PHEV version, not the EV or HFC ones.